FoeYay
#50094
A noir series I'm writing is full of this. It adds to the tension of the plot.
#50095
This troper and one of her, well... we're sort of friends, but the fact is we just kind of snark at eachother all the time and honestly, sometimes I just hate him. My other friends insist that we're secretly flirting with each other. Yeah, right.
#50096
Are you me?
#50097
This troper and her first 'boyfriend'. Subverted in that he wasn't nearly as interesting as she'd been led to believe, and she immediately redirected her frustrated tsun-tsun side into an attempt at YamatoNadeshiko-hood, effectively losing ''his'' interest as well. Let that be a lesson to you young'uns; occasionally, people actually ''do'' hate each other.
#50098
This troper had an antagonistic relationship with a certain member on a forum she used to be on -- I'd call him a bigoted asshole, he'd call me a touchy feely politically correct whiner with no sense of humour. If I knew this kid in real life, I'd probably find myself strangling him. Then I found myself a little too... intrigued. My following-him-around-to-catch-him-in-the-act-of-being-a-dick turned into a bizarre sort of admiration, for his skill of being able to push every single one of my buttons at once while still acting like a pompous prick. Over time it softened into a more FriendlyEnemies sort of affair, his hatred-spewing growing less idiotic over time and me becoming less thin-skinned about things, but if I'd met him in real life... I'd be a lot less torn. (Or a lot more, IfYouKnowWhatIMean.)
#50099
Gross.
#50100
This Troper has come to the conclusion that his archnemesis from high school was actually expressing his latent homoerotic lust for him, especially since they used to be friends before his enemy suddenly decided to turn into a major dick. It guess it doesn't help matters that he typically retaliated to his foe's JerkAss behavior with a healthy dose of MindScrew (pun intended).
#50101
This troper encountered Surprise!FoeYay unexpectedly: A particular person on a particular forum became my arch-nemesis of sorts almost immediately, mostly due to our opposite opinions (Decepticon vs. Autobot, Conservative vs. Libertarian, Pie vs. Cake); we even had team-ups on occasion against those more obnoxious than even him. Then one day I went to check out some books at the campus library while wearing a Decepticon t-shirt, and was greeted by a guy with an Autobot shirt checking his email. A casual glance confirmed his username, and without thinking I shot off a line from our last argument. The result? We're still nemeses, but offline we're more like {{Punch Clock Villain}}s (neither one of us probably counts as a hero).
#50102
This troper ran an RPG based on original Grimm's fantasy/folklore, with a bit of bondage culture. This encouraged Foe Yay in pretty much any antagonistic relationship, from guards and bandits, to hunters and barbarians, to courtly intrigues, to inter-Kingdom conflict. This was somewhat influenced by Sociolotron, where Foe Yay quite often dove into the explicit.
#50103
This troper, a Rocketshipper, for a while had FoeYay with Dodgemaster Tim, notorious anti-Rocketshipper and webmaster of the satire site Pokemopolis. Why? Oh god, why? Well... for a while, she was intrigued by him and his hatred. What was it about her beliefs that made him tick, exactly? So, she joined the forums to see if she could become friendly enough with him. She started to find him entertaining. Charming, almost. And if there's one thing that makes this troper love a man, it's that he can make her laugh. She was disturbed by this. Deeply. But she still wanted to see if she could befriend him. Several months later, she realized how deep his hatred was for her kind, so she stopped laughing, left the forum, and got over it. She now realizes what a fool she was and what a jerk he is.
#50104
This Troper didn't quite have Foe Yay, but instead had an extremely Foe Yay-ish moment with a friend. This friend and I wrestle. A lot. Extremely violently. Often to the point of extensive bruising and mild bleeding. One night, this happened. ->''I pin her, straddling her.'' ->Me: You know, if we ever hooked up, we would have the craziest, hottest sex. ->''She flips me, counter-pinning me, her now straddling me.'' ->Her: Or if we were the type to act on our intense attraction to each other. ->''Long pause while we stare at each other... then go back to wrestling.'' Closer to Slap Slap Kiss, but still amusing. (The Kiss part came the next day. And yes, it was every bit as hot as I'd imagined.)
#50105
This Troper recalls ''hating'' two fellow female students,one in 4th grade and one in 5th,because they were so... So perfect in all the classes,and had so many friends. Today,around 2 years away from graduating from elementary,I wonder if I was crushing on them.
#50106
Apparently suspected between this Troper and another girl in her class once. This other girl has had a few boyfriends, has more friends than this Troper and often gets 8-10 out of 10 on tests. And still she complains about not having a boyfriend and not getting good enough grades and about being fat, while this Troper has only had reprociated love once in first grade and sometimes gets JUST enough points to pass the test, not to mention that there's a flippin' 20 kgs difference between us in weight, me being heavier (early puberty had some side-effects... besides, people've accused her of mild anorexia warning sometimes). Anyways, she's the closest I've come to have an enemy within my class (with so few people it's hard not to be at neutral terms with everyone), to the point of my dad accusing her to be the cause of another girl bullying me - our rivalry was so visible! Then one time in class, she started to complain about getting an 8. One of the guys started to critizise her and then went on to say to himself that "... and *insert troper's name* LIKES that girl! I just don't get any of 'em!". I heard this and then went on to tell him that I really hated her... which I don't. I just get the urge to punch her when she starts whining about anything, and she's thankfully not done that so much lately within my hearing range. And even IF I'd liked her (and that would be possible) she's the straightest and probably girliest in our class.
#50107
This troper's first meeting with her now-fiance consisted of us both shouting and arguing with each other to the point that the professor was worried physical violence would break out as we argued over a point in European History class, and it was by no means the last time it happened. The professor actually asked us what happened when all of a sudden we stopped yelling at each other at the drop of a hat...
#50108
On a forum this troper used to frequent, the hostile tension between him and another member (he was sort of a DeadpanSnarker repeatedly pressing this troper's BerserkButton to delight in the results) was so well-known that a resident artist of the forum both volunteered and was ''requested'' to draw Foe Yay yaoi between the two.
#50109
No personal story, but it didn't seem fitting to put it on the main page. The first thing this troper does when introduced to a new show is decide whether she likes it or not. The second thing she does is figure out which of the heros she's going to pair with the villain. This is only partly done to freak out her friends.
#50110
This troper experienced a real life example.There a boy she hated who ran around with his friends causing havok,wannabe gangsters.He stole her sled.She chased him with a butcher knife. He stole her bike?She called the cops and led them right to his backyard where it was being held and watched hi mother beat him in the street.he shoved her in front of a spouting fire hydrant and watched her skid across the street on her shoulder. She sicced her 2 pitbulls and her cat on him.Then one day he had her meet him behind an abadoned house.This troper brought a baseball bat. he kissed her.Apparently the reason oys terrorize you is becasue they like you. This troper DID not return the favor.
#50111
Pitbulls!? Butcher knives!? Yikes.
#50112
ThisTroper went to high school with a kid who was, essentially, a {{Gender Flip}}ped RichBitch. When her dad heard about said RichBastard's JerkAss-ery, he suggested that maybe the guy just ''liked'' her.
#50113
Any time this troper is at an arcade and he sees someone not only playing a game that he likes and is played casually by 95% of players, but playing it very well, he developers an interest in that player and wishes to get to know him or her. The attraction usually never reaches non-platonic levels though.
#50114
This troper's Spanish teacher and her friends accused her of liking this guy. I can't stand him, but it seems like some people think we are dating.
#50115
This troper and a girl in her British Lit class got into a debate every. single. class. We didn't plan it...I never once lay awake at night thinking "Geez, I wonder what are the possible interpretations of this passage from "King Lear" so whichever one SHE goes with, I'll argue the opposite point of view." It just happened that way. The next semester...by shear chance...she ended up in my Modern American Lit course. The first few weeks we were engaged in our usual rivalry, but by the time we were discussing "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" outside of class we realized somewehre in there we had bonded through our mutual love of literature. Even when I kinda hated her I did think she was as hot as hell, though, but I'd eat my toenails before I told her that.
#50116
Two of this troper's friends (let's call them A and B) would always argue and bicker in whichever class(es) the ended up in. B always makes fun of A, who is quite passionate and vocal about her strong, political, beliefs. Bonus points whenever there was a group project where they inevitably ended up together since for some reason, A would always partner up with B. It eventually got to the point where most people thought they were together (they really weren't). Even our Biology teacher said that they argued like an "Old Married Couple."
#50117
This troper couldn't stand his OlderThanTheyLook now ex-girlfriend before he got in bed with her. He still has hatred toward her ''actually, I utterly DESPISE her''. She may have been TheFundamentalist and thus opposed to his NewAgeRetroHippie self (minus the Retro Hippie bit) but in that scenario she was awesome.
#50118
This Troper's knew a girl who left to go to a boarding school once. We were, notably both quite similar and diametrically opposed to each other (She accused me of being too cynical; I accused her of being too idealistic) and owuld frequently get into arguments. Just before she left, my friend suggested that I run down the stairs and kiss her. I replied "Because clearly, our frequent arguments are a sign of repressed attraction." to which he of course replied "Yes, clearly!" Not being much in touch with my emotions, I've never figured out whether I really ''did'' like her.
#50119
This troper had a guy in her french class that always seemed to have some kind of grudge against her. If it wasn't teasing and snarking remarks, it was ignoring and glaring. We were both at the top of our class so we always ended up together when it came to discussions or projects that required teamwork, so most of the time, we were snarking, shouting or giving each other the cold shoulder. Everybody seemed to take this as sexual tension. Even the teachers.
#50120
Quite a few of his peers suspected that this troper had a FoeYay relationship with his rival. If we had been actors in a romantic comedy, they'd have been right... but unfortunately for all involved, this trope was '''brutally''' subverted when said rival used her family's influence to have a respected colleague and friend expelled from her position on our school Academic Decathlon team. Needless to say, after that incident, my friends learned to stop telling me these stories.
#50121
This troper may have engaged in full blown Foe Yay with two different men over the past semester. The first one was rather nice at first, but then later on, it really turned into him being my "antagonist with benefits". However, that's something she liked about him. It made things more fun. He now has found someone he cares about now though, and she's happy for him. With the second guy, we were in the same roleplaying group and it wasn't just our characters that were at each other's throats. Our favourite thing to do was (and who knows, probably still will be) to insult each other on a regular basis. He really brings out the tsun-tsun in her, which hasn't happened as well as this since she was about 16. However, things really became interesting at a rock society night, where, after a lot of drinking and a lot more sniping, he pushed her against a wall and kissed her. She'll leave you to take a wild guess as to what happened afterwards.
#50122
This Troper is a frequent debater on the Christian side of several religious fora. On one of those he and a jewish girl often happened to interest ourselves in the same threads and almost always would end up heavily arguing with each other. We have both conceded on points and have both won arguments, something that is rather unusual in religious debates, very much especially so on the web. After a while we contacted each other on per private message and it resulted in us exchanging addresses, real names and realizing we lived too far from each other for dating to work.
#50123
This Troper knows two people who seem to have a FoeYay relationship with eachother. one is a very cynical DeadpanSnarker "C" and the other is the WideEyedIdealist who is NotGoodWithPeople "G" and This Troper is his only friend. C (who happens to be gay), constantly teases G about him believing in ghosts and aliens, his poor social skills, and anything else he can think of. G is completely disinterested in people anyway, but gets angry at C for teasing him. C clearly fancies G, mainly due to how he once told everyone that when nobodys around, G likes to dress as a woman and is into bondage. This isnt true although I found that comment to be FetishFuel for me. I am a bit jealous of C as I know what he wants, and I am secretly in love with G, my best friend-even though I know that I stand a better chance of being in a relationship with him as its never going to happen between G and C as G isnt gay.
#50124
This troper met a lovely young gentleman in philosophy club. Anytime we talk (or anytime we even see each other) we launch into a snark session which eventually degenerates into petty bickering and long, rambling philosophical asides. The guy is a walking tribulation. Utterly insufferable. If I say up, he'll say down just to spite me. He's a bit sour and the philosophy club's OnlySaneMan, I'm something of a Cloudcuckoolander and aspiring Manic Pixie Dream Dude (not really working so far) and yet he was the very first to call me on the morning of my eighteenth and wish me a happy birthday. It was... surprisingly touching. I believe my reaction was, "Why... you ''sweetheart''." Doesn't hurt that he's not exactly bad-looking, either.
#50125
This troper had an odd metaphysical example during the middle of her freaking literature test after reading a poem about two "lovers" who were determined to free themselves from the the suffocating expectations of the other. And then the question asks, "Is this poem about: a) lovers b) friends c) rivals..." and I forget after that because the first thing that flew into my head at c) was "foe yay", at which point I promptly smacked my head loudly onto my desk, earning myself quite a few odd looks. It was as bad and distracting as it sounds.
#50126
Borderline example: This troper cannot see her best friend's sister for two minutes without getting into a screaming match with her. Sister has also exposed herself to troper multiple times. One day she was following Troper and her friends to the movies, shouting obscenities at them. Cue Troper saying "I'll be ''right'' back," and turning to chase after Friend's Sister. Sister ran away, still shouting over her shoulder, until Troper pinned her against a nearby house, held her by the wrists and deliberately put her face about two centimeters from Sister's. Sister started to freak out, thinking Troper was going to kiss her, until Troper kissed her on the cheek, let her go, and calmly walked back to her friends. Whiiich led to... #QUOTE#'''Friend's Sister:''' Do you have a crush on me or somethin'?!
#50127
Borderline? That sounded like a yuri fanfic to me.
#50128
In school, I never seemed to have crushes on people who were nice to me. The girls I liked were always ones who were bitchy or mean to me. I didn't like everyone who was like that, obviously, but, well, what can I say? I guess I kind of liked it. And with at least one girl there was definitely BelligerentSexualTension. The odd thing is that, now that we're friends, there's no attraction anymore. We're like sisters. No more FoeYay.
#50129
This Troper wonders if anybody else noticed some of the subtle FoeYay between Alice and Marta from TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld. Alice uses a cute Nickname "Mart Mart" is obsesses over Marta a lot. While Marta (when she is not fighting Alice) is frequently talks about Alice.
#50130
This Troper has constantly been in fights with a kid she's known since elementary; constantly arguing and is the only person to openly despise. So why is it that people accuse us of liking each other?
#50131
This tropette was in a recent RP with one of her friends where his goody-two-shoes character was a prisoner and her evil character had to watch over him. Cue puns and 'advances' from his character, annoying the hell out of hers. The violent side of her deredere attitude came through...or was he being a bad {{Dogged Nice Guy}}?
#50132
One of this troper's old high school teachers was very antagonistic to a certain guy when they were in high school. They are now happily married.
#50133
Either subverted or double-subverted with a girl this male troper knew in middle school. She would always insult me, spread rumours about me, say that I was talking to my imaginary friend whenever she caught me talking to myself, etc... but she was popularly rumoured by the school to have a crush on me. I never got to find out her reaction to the rumours, as I do not recall anyone mentioning them in front of her. The way I see it, though, even if she did have a crush on me, then whether she was expressing it or hiding it, she sure picked an awful way of going about it, and I probably would not want to go out with someone so obnoxious and rude anyway.
#50134
This troper has rivals in terms of schoolwork, always girls too. He's aromantic so he doesn't get crushes. However he tends to get psuedo-crushes, not yet squishes but still a romance-like feeling. This feeling has also occurred to him when in relation to this girl who loathed him very much for no reason.
#50135
Subverted for this troper. For each school I've went to, there have been one boy I don't like in my class. Elementary, middle and high school. The first two were just annoying and immature, the third one was a arrogant fanboy. For each one of them, I've got at least one comment on that I probably actually like them. ...No. Just no.
#50136
A friend of mine ("M") is familiar with a celebrity ("E"). He constantly goes out of his way to remind us of E's negative traits and actions. It is at least moderately known in the fandom that E utterly despises M. would all make a lot more sense if I could say who they are, but I'd rather not violate their privacy. So of course, I ship it. And M's reactions when I mention that are priceless :D
#50137
This troper just finds it silly, especially with the Hatedom of JustinBieber and ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''. You hate the person so much, you wish death on him...yet you talk about him at almost every single opportunity? You hate Stephanie Meyer so much, yet you read all her books and have seen all the movie adaptations of the books? It seems like they're doing ''something'' right...you're spreading word about them. It also seems kind of silly how you hate stuff that's not made for your demographic. All those 20-year-olds who seem obsessed with JustinBieber...no offense but with how obsessed you are with Bieber and Edward Cullen, that's just ''creepy''.
#50138
I would personally love to paraphrase what you just said to reply to the next YouTube comment that bashes Twilight or Bieber, but I'm afraid of the flame war that would ensue.
#50139
See FanDumb and Hatedom for more in this vein
#50140
A non-sexual example: This trooper has a {{bokukko}} friend, an alto, who has a relationship like this with tenors. Not one tenor in particular, but anyone trained in that range. One second she'll rant about how its so unfair that their voices have such a range and how she hates them for their voices - and the next second she'll be cooing over the lovely ranges of tenors, how gorgeous they sound, etc... My mind is that she's jealous of the tenor voice and wishes she had one herself.
#50141
This troper's reading ''{{Othello}}'' in English class. Her OTP? Cassio/Iago.
#50142
This troper used to have this friend. A beautiful and smart girl. This troper fell in love with her and at the same time a conflict of epic levels started between them. FoeYay ensued, but in the end they stayed on ill terms with each other.
#50143
This tropette had a friend while they were in high school. We would always snark at each other and it was easy to get either of us on edge. So what do our friends do, they start saying we're in love. We got used to it after a while, but then our class mates found out. And they taunted him ruthlessly (they weren't brave enough to pick on a girl, thank goodness). It all ended when he moved to an entirely different state, but to this day people STILL bring it up.
#50144
This troper seems to be a magnet for this. A lot of the people who don't like her have had Foe Yay moments with her (either boys or girls)at some point. For example, in one lesson I once had to sit between two of the people I don't like (both girls)- they both sat pretty close to me, literally touching distance close, started saying suggestive things, and carried on that way for the entire hour... I'm pretty sure that to an outside viewer it looked like they were suggesting a threesome. I'm surprised that no one actually noticed. I'll grudgingly admit that they're both hot stuff, even if I hate them both- most of the people who I end up having Foe Yay with are attractive... I'm not whether that's a good or bad thing yet.