This troper and a friend did this to each other. How? One of her fetishes is gay guys feeding each other with their mouths. One of mine is lesbian incest.

This troper wonders why Metal Gear Solid, a game aimed at primarily guys, puts so much HoYay in it. Come on, Kojima.

So the explosions, blood, and bricks-for-shit are all just a masquerade?

This troper has recently been playing through the freshly released action game ''Bayonetta'', which takes the fanservice UpToEleven. I actually find the title character decidedly unattractive and everything she does to be trying way, way too hard... but the gameplay is good enough that I can look past it.

This troper actualy had some guy on Xbox Live on Halo 3 start masturbating after he said he was wearing a t-shirt. What made it creepier is that a f***ed up 5-year-old joined in too. Needless to say, I don't play Halo 3 anymore.

This troper has become a fan of some characters of whom she needed to forcibly remove one or two moments of their screentime. Robin Hood from the show of the same name had an awesome series introduction, but she more or less had to ignore the fact that he was sucking face with a random, inexplicalbly Medeval hawt chick for no good reason. Lyon, the kindhearted AntiVillain from FireEmblem 8 quickly established himself as one of her favorite FE bad guys, save for one moment when he equated being defeated by a woman as a reason he was too weak to be a leader. Ray Penber's infamous {{Retirony}} speech pretty much ruined the entire point. Cid Highwind from FinalFantasyVII racked up at least ten thousand {{Badass}} points within three minutes of his introduction, but they disappeared just as quickly when she learned his verbal bullying of Shera borderlines DomesticAbuse.

This troper knows a group of straight female fans of the ''RumbleRoses'' series, who enjoy the gameplay, the plots and the music rather than the JigglePhysics and girl-on-girl mud-wrestling the games are sold on.

This bi male troper (who prefers women somewhat more than men) agrees with those fans.

That, my friends, is what makes a good video game: come for the bounce, stay for the story. Comparatively, DOAII was openly bloomph-o-riffic to draw an audience, but also proved to be a solid fighting game.

Awesomely, check out a ''Rumble Roses'' forum at some point. The demographic is pretty much split evenly between teenage girls who like having a video game totally about girl characters, and teenage boys who like having a video game totally about girl characters. Both sides get on, as well, it's really rather sweet.

This (male) troper has similar issues with ''OuranHighSchoolHostClub''.

This (straight male) troper reads and enjoys ''Ouran'' wholeheartedly for its AffectionateParody aspects. That a majority of the main characters are {{Bishonen}} (and therefore very slashable) makes no difference to him.

This male troper goes for tomboyish girls anyway, and spent too much of the show crushing on Haruhi to care about the female-oriented fanservice.

Ironically, a running gag in the fandom is the premise of the show is actually very man-friendly, considering the guys attend to cute rich schoolgirls who all crush on them, and the fruitiest character is actually the female lead.

Some older, more analytical HarryPotter fans get an awful lot of this. I'm just disturbed that not only were other people *seeing* Tom Riddle/Horace Slughorn... They were writing it.

Disturbingly, this seems to include the movie writers. They took what this troper saw as ambiguous subtext for the sake of creep-factor, and turned it into "yeah, that guy? total paedo."

While this troper does appreciate the girl-friendly eyecandy in Buffy, the random 'OMG Hawt Chik' moments tend to throw him off a bit. Not even just because of the dislike, but because of how random it always seems to the plot.

Especially since Whedon is supposed to be anti-gratuitous-fanservice. This troper would probably be more offput if he wasn't a heterosexual male.

So you're openly saying that sexy men are okay and sexy women aren't.

Yeah, this is odd. Besides, which was more common, any of the female cast wearing barely anything or JamesMarsters in a single, unseen, sock? The second one, if you're wondering. There is no fucking way Joss is straight. Bisexual, sure. Straight? That's impossible.

Or maybe he just knows girls like fanservice too?

This trope can be rough if you're gay, or like this troper mostly prefer men. You get used to het sexy stuff because you have to, but it can be really jarring. Let alone random Lesbian fanservice... ew.

Same here. Thats why I eventually stopped watching AirGear and TsubasaReservoirChronicle; the HoYay alone wasn't enough to keep me in with all the exagerated straight male oriented fanservice and the stupid plot. And then there are idiots who complain the HoYay should disappear...

This troper finds it hard to appreciate HoYay. She's not against gays, but an incident she'd rather not talk about makes her woozy about it. Kinda jarring, because most of her personality would make her out to be the type to like HoYay.

Seconded, although I don't have an incident or anything.

This (female) troper isn't bisexual by any means. Hence, she isn't interested, let alone turned on, by LesYay or more explicit lesbian action. On the other hand, she enjoys {{Yaoi}} and sometimes even {{Bara}}. Not that she has something against lesbians, it's just lesbian sex has been exploited so many times and featured in so many media it has become a trite subject for her. Not to mention that such action is almost always cheap {{Fanservice}} and ''true'' lesbians are most times absent from mainstream or portrayed as {{Straw Feminist}}s who hate men, thus uninteresting. Not to mention that the sheer number of attention wh**es who use this ploy to get males to notice them doesn't help in making the act look less phony in her eyes.

Having been a part of the FurryFandom for some time, I've found that any creative site that allows critique (IE, most major collective art galleries, such as Fur Affinity, Deviant Art, Sheezy Art, etc) inevitably lives and dies on this trope as regular as the tides. Due to the demographics of the fandom, one of the more common cases of SelectiveSquick that apparently turns up is a comment (sometimes bordering on a sort of revulsion) at the inclusion of a female character in a heterosexual image--often, that it would be 'a lot better' with two males doing the same thing. You ''will'' end up finding people who seem to be crossing over into Complaining About Genders/Species/Fetishes They Don't Like, usually while being passionate about another fetish of their own. Considering that some people consider furry itself to be one, you end up seeing this trope a good bit as a result. There are people who go to great lengths to complain about something that doesn't appeal to them, sometimes treating it like some kind of personal offense, even if they've been openly and repeatedly warned in the description, thumbnail, or tags about the content. This gets especially amusing when you realize how few of the people commenting in some case aren't actively following the artist in question, leading to many cases of Complaining About Artists You Don't Watch. You quite literally will find comments along the lines of "hot, but I wish that there wasn't *"; insert the wildcard contents of your choice, no matter how broad or narrow.

I'm a huge Hetalia fan, but it could REALLY do without the Ho Yay. No, I'm not homophobic or anything, it's just that it's COMPLETELY unnecessary, and yaoi is just... not my thing. (And I'm oblivious to most of it, too, but the part I see...)

This troper is what most people call a yaoi fangirl. I still completely stopped to watch Hetalia because of the unnecessary and annoying Ho Yay.

Not really a Squick, but I don't see the need to put in some long kissing scene or/and romantic subplot in 99% of movies. Movies that doesn't even need it. Sure, love is good and nice and all, but we don't realy need romance in everything!

Also, ''SHIPPING'' in fandoms. Just... shipping. Never been into it, never will, it's simply not interesting to me to discuss who likes who in a series(also, some of the fans sees every single little thing they do as "hints"... yeah, ''right''. No such thing as just being friends. Or even enemies). Yet, it seems like most other people in... any fandom, really, ship at least one pairing.

On a related i note, most ho yay, or any other type of yay, is just wishful thinking on the part of fan girls. it selectively squicks This Troper out

Original poster agrees. I'm sometimes surprised over their abilities to make everything - EVERYTHING - seem like subtext. Especially FoeYay. They are ENEMIES, damn it!

I agree with all of this, so very much. Especially because in a lot of stories, it really feels like the romantic subplot wasn't originally planned, and so the authors just shoehorned it in because their publishers told them it was necessary. I also agree with the dislike of shipping. I am quite disturbed by people who are that obsessed with seeing/writing fictional characters making out.

I don't like yaoi, and that just fels weird when pretty much all of my other female anime-fan friends love it. Well, I do like myself some bishies... but I don't get the appeal of making them all gay. (Or, I do kinda get it, but still)

''{{Turgor}}''. It's a brilliantly-crafted atmospheric game with many philosophical themes and choices. This is why I played it in the first place. It also has ''extremely'' gratuitous amounts of {{Fanservice}} with ''every single female character'', which is rather jarring to the overall narrative of the game and makes me feel rather uncomfortable and/or annoyed.