True as it is about Goths, black metal fans are, a hell of a lot of the time, freakin' nutty, and their fashion happens to coincide with {{Goth}} fashion a lot. This Troper happens to be a black metal fan, and, well...he chased his friends with a knife last Saturday. Yeah.

This Troper would like to stay far, far away from That Troper.

This Troper asserts that the First Troper is trying too hard.

This seems more like a subversion.

This troper would like to point out that fashion sense does not equal personality. Some of the nicest people he knows dress in the goth style just because they like the clothes (and in truth having a bajillion pockets on your pants can be seen as beneficial) while some of the nastiest people he knows dress in what would be considered casual wear. Fashion is just another form of art.

In addition to the pants that rival most backpacks in terms of carrying capacity, there also the trenchcoats that border on a {{hyperspace arsenal}}. This troper knows a person who manages to lug around pretty much every handyman tool you can think of with hardly any signs of it on the outside. Hammer, check, screwdriver, check, electric drill, check, spare battery for said drill, check, spade(don't ask...), check, various boxes of screws, nails, nuts, bolts, glue, check. The only downside is that the coat weighs only slightly less then a full set of plate armor and will demolish any coathanger it comes in contact with.

How on earth does he/she carry the spade and stay able to ''walk''?

This troper would like to add that if one has the good fortune to be born a {{Pale Skinned Brunette}} with green eyes and curly hair, there's often little choice in the matter. She can and does look {{goth}} in a pink polo shirt and chinos from the Gap.

This Troper is exactly the same way. My freckles and adorable catseye glasses help negate the effect, though.

This troper is the same, only with Xion's haircut+ pigtails. She's gotten both "adorable" and "intimidating."

Subverted- This troper is friends with a goth who is a total sweetie and is actually very lighthearted (and has a wild sense of hummor).

This troper knows a female goth, now 19, who used be rather dark and moody, with her {{MySpace}} page reflecting it. Over time, though, she became more lighthearted, as well as her page, putting more focus more on goth fashion and modelling than on the lifestyle.

This troper used to eat lunch with a group of goths at school every day, since he knew a few of them from years back. He was surprised to learn that they were actually very friendly and personable.

I would like to point out that all of you are totally awkward and I don't want to talk to you. :(.

Nobody said you had to. Hey, you can go eat in the library and squee over P.B. Shelley, for all we care.

Above troper deserves a MadeOfWin. First troper deserves... some help.

This troper's social circle subverts this trope constantly. Most people don't expect a bunch of goths to be the jokers at parties.

In this Troper's larp group, there is one guy with a bunch of piercings and a shirt with some heavy metal band on it every time he's there. He's one of the nicest guys ever, and requires a hug from everyone before he leaves.

This troper had a friend who was pretty much this. Always wore black, lots of pins and piercings, but she was incredibly kind and just fun to be around. It also helped that she was DAMN GOOD at math -- the day we cemented out friendship was the day she helped me with my math homework... and she also happened to be a fan of DevilMayCry. She has since gone to uni and I haven't seen her for about 5 years. I miss her very much.

This troper typically wears black, but more in minimalist than Goth style, mainly because he hates choosing clothes. He's had several Goth and Black Metal fan friends in his life, though (and likes good metal music himself, too), and these days he associates black leather, piercings and other elements of such fashions with people who are nice, personable, and safe. If he'd have to choose whether to walk past a gang of metalheads, or a gang of soccer fans late at night, he'd choose the metal fans any time.

This troper's friends both avoid and play this trope straight. One friend wears black and is often referred to as the anti-christ, another group of friends are the biggest goths ever and the most cheerful and friendly people I've ever met. They even gave each other nicknames, and just to put the point across that they are fun-loving people rather than sociopaths, they gave me the nickname of "cub".

This troper has a twisted sense of humor, a tendency to level death threats, and a love of video games that let you torment the enemy in various different ways. He's actually an okay guy, according to his friends.

This troper is a reclusive DeadpanSnarker, and everything, '''everything''' she wears, owns or uses, is black. Her wardrobe, her purse, her backpack, her wallet, her mp3 player, every single one of her gaming consoles (Yes, including her Wii) and she seldom even turns a light on. If you do get the chance to talk to her though, you'll find her to be anything but goth. Sure she's snarky and can be a bit foul-tempered, but everything being black and her general dark-and-spooky gimmick is more of a BunnyEarsLawyer thing.

This troper is essentially like this, his favourite colours are black, purple and blood red and he's the only member of his family who does not cry or freak out while watching horror movies, he's also a bit of a Genius Bruiser and a Dedpan Snarker. He's also at times a big softie and almost John Candy-like in personality terms. Although it is sometimes subverted when he's pretending to be evil. Despite his twisted sense of humour and his naturally creepy ability to do a good Peter Lorre impersonation he's actually quite nice.

This troper has never been entirely sure what being a "goth" entails, but she's accused of it often. She wears black everything, as often as possible, with maybe a slogan on the t-shirt if she's feeling really flashy. And has purple hair (my friend's idea, not mine). She's also the bubbly, upbeat one in her circle of stressed and slightly gloomy friends (all of whom favour either brighter or lighter-coloured outfits).

Somewhere in the region of 95-99% of this troper's shirts are black. Combined with the fact that her work uniform precludes black pants and shoes and she only changes into her work top at... well, work, she gets a lot of stares on the commute.

Preclude... I do not think it means what you think it means. Unless you're being stared at because you have a black shirt with non-black pants/shoes. Which I'm not sure why it would elicit stares...

(original troper) ...uh... y'know, I actually run a community for wrong words over on livejournal and I never thought I'd get caught in this. Include. Right. Yeah. Not preclude. ...I'll just run off and self-mock now.

This troper looks pretty dark from the back... dark hair, lots of black clothes... then you get round the front and see the black shirt has an Autobots logo or "To err is human, to blame someone else indicates management potential" on it.

I want those shirts. Heck... I just hope you're a dude so I can justify my sudden schoolgirl-crush.

This troper almost constantly wears a black hoodie and seems, at first glance, to be a brooding, antisocial creeper, and has been called a future killer by peers. But in reality, once I warm up to someone, I'm cheerful and friendly to an almost off-putting level.

Wait, there are two mes ?

Dungeons and Dragons game example: one game this troper is in has her playing a Dread Necromancer for whom standing in the presence of paladins and clerics is painful, potentially fatal, and she's usually surrounded by undead minions. She's LawfulGood, the conscience of the party, and constantly expresses moral outrage at the presence of a Binder in the party.

This troper. Sure, I like black, maybe a little too much. Yes, I'm a bit of a loner. But I'm a bit of a KuuDere:...And the [[YanDere other deres, but that's beside the point...]], and when I warm up to a person... let's just say I've been compared to Colette, Rikku, and Mikuru (Not like that!),, and other such PollyAnna, GenkiGirl, or MoeMoe characters.

This troper wears all black, with military boots and a trench coat (As well as long hair, and would have had a goatee if he'd had enough beard growth). He's been described as "How can you manage to be so cheerful all of the time?" and "Possibly the least dangerous person I've ever met." He also has a natural affinity with children and a goofy laugh.

All of this troper's mother-figures (besides her actual mother, who is... not particularly maternal and can be unnecessarily harsh) have been very, very goth, or otherwise dark, heavily pierced, exotically dyed, and quirky. They seem to enjoy taking care of me for some reason, despite the fact that I am not exactly waifish and am an unnecessary drama-llama. Every group needs a den mother, I suppose. Not all these warm, maternal people are even female, either.

Might as well contribute to spreading the good word. This troper would, if the colour black was anthropomorphically personified, marry it and sire an extensive and saturnine brood. I like dark, disturbing music and movies, enjoy solitude more than other people and, if I ever got published, I'd do my level best to give my reading audience night terrors. For all this, and despite some tendency to cynicism, I'm also incredibly comfortable to be around. It helps that I'm a doormat and frequently bubbly to the point of mania. Also, I've got a fair few friends from goth and alternative backgrounds. While they're not all perma-cheerful goody two-Doc-Martens, they are still amongst the friendliest, good natured people I've had the fortune to know.

This troper can control the element of Darkness and is one of the most heroic people she knows! Of course, she also lives in her own little world and alternates between the Cloud Cuckoolander and Magnificent Bastard personalities that share her body, so she suggests you don't listen to a word she says.

Raekuul's newest project centers around a (Male) Virgin BareFistedMonk who can't get into the Knights Proper because of his Vampiric powers. Not that it really bothers him...

This troper always wears dark clothing (not a goth, he just likes it), and he can safely say he's the most empathic and sensitive person in his entire school. Undercover.

This troper is a recluse and {{deadpan snarker}}. His trademark item of clothing is a black hoodie, and he has an extremely morbid sense of humor. Everyone thinks he's an evil sociopath, but when you get to know him he's irritatingly cheerful and airheaded.

This troper likes to wear her Harley-Davidson combat boots with her ZettaiRyouiki. These, for reference.

That sounds so hot.

This troper isn't exactly dark, but he's generally a loner and doesn't talk much. In spite of this, he's known for being an all-around nice guy.

This troper has used the Magic the Gathering colors in a personality test he created that he can give on the spot to just about anyone that uses three of the five colors to help me figure out your personality. Some of the nicest people I know have Black in their personality color triangle.

This user is kind of a jerk (flipping off salesmen, using deathglare with reckless abandon to get people to move, and occasionally just running down underclassmen with a rolling backpack), wears fairly dark clothing (green, dark gray, and occasionally black if I am in a bad mood...Except for my trademark silver jacket, that coat's been through three JROTC camps, and four hunting seasons without taking any serious damage, it may very well outlive me. So I consider it a good luck charm/security item), and I hate people seeing my eyes, so I wear sunglasses on any day where it is not dark or rainy enough to render me nearly blind by doing so. BUT I don't hesitate to help the few people in this world who's existence I can actually tolerate for more then five minutes. And WILL DESTROY anyone who messes with them in the most effective manner possible (I obey all laws, however, you can't help your friends if you're doing 20 years for kicking a bully in the genitals). Being a douche does not make you evil. - Exdeath64

This troper wears usually a dark coat, has black hair and spends a good part of his time resting in shadows; people tend have the LonersAreFreaks behaviour (aka: avoiding having anything to do with me) and those who are friendly somewhat seem to be scared, except my friends. That said, while I'm not truly malevolent, I'm ChaoticNeutral, and my InternetToughGuy impression genuinely seem to keep at bay any trolls or assholes, since I haven't had a single attacking comment on my DA page even when people who are simply atheists or LGBT have.

While this troper isn't nescisarily 'goth' He does have a tendancy toward dark clothes, leather trenchcoats, has dark hair, and actually experiences physical pain from the sun (Very light sensitive eyes, great for seeing in the dark, sucks for daytime). He also tends to strike up a conversation with just about ANYONE that he sits/stands near for longer than 5 minutes and will often be instant friends with them, consistently plays good alingment, and is considered the 'safest' boy that any of his girlfriends have ever dated. Oh, and did I forget to mention that my first car was a RETIRED HEARSE!!!!

AJ? That you?

This troper is black. I haven't even killed anyone this month.

This troper has extremely pale skin and eyes and tends to dye her hair dark (it looks nicer that way)and wear deark clothing. She is also somewhat a {{deadpan snarker}}, but is generally considered a kind, trustworthy, friendly person by almost everyone she knows. At least those that don't yell 'Emooo!!!' at her from behind.

This troper's wardrobe is mostly black. It's warmer, and simpler, and though she doesn't consider herslef a goth, she does have a personal preference for the shade and style. However, she's chronically polite and just doesn't like being mean. People have commented on her 'surprising' cheerfulness. Also, little kids tend to gravitate towards her despite the dark appearance. Or perhaps, because of? Who knows.

It's a bit roundabout, but this Troper and her internet friend once got another internet friend really riled up by calling this trope on an OC she made, an evil gargoyle. Attempts to convince her that, historically, gargoyle's weren't evil, resulted in said internet friend throwing a hissy fit and not talking to either of us for a week. It was a nice week.

I wear mostly black, I'm a huge NightmareFetishist, and I sometimes go out of my way to creep people out. But I'm also one of the nicest people I know, if a bit shy.

This Troper noticed that, every day when he has Law as 1st Period, there's always the same girl dressed in black in front of the classroom, waiting for class to start. Once, this Troper addressed that with a quip ("You use some kind of teleportation spell?"). When we ran into each other before class the next day (by chance -- we had different classes that day), she told me that remark hurt her feelings. I apologized, explained that I was going for a cheap laugh, and we shook hands and made up. Geez, colBoh, have you learned nothing from Raven, Urd, Lust, and Vivian?

This troper isn't goth, but wears black. He also has an intimidating physique, a deep menacing voice, a blood-curdlingly evil laugh, a sinister smile, a penetrating glare and tendancies towards MagnificentBastard and DeadpanSnarker... and yet his friends still love him.

This troper doesn't need to be a goth (although there was that phase...). This Troper is just socially awkward and was never led in into the joke of social skills. However people who took time to not be offended by this tropers mere presence often state how surprised they are that you can be nice and a bookworm and that wearing glasses doesn't make you arrogant.

This troper wears a lot of black (except in summer), has a black computer, black speakers, a black MP3-player and a black pen case, filled with black pens, most of them actually writing with black ink. He also listens to metal, has a penchant for DeadBabyComedy, BlackComedy and GallowsHumor. He is an extreme DeadpanSnarker on a Daria-level, and hates white lies with a passion, resorting mostly to BrutalHonesty. He is also extremely loyal, responsible, trustworthy (especially regarding secrets and promises), and practically can't refuse to help any of his friends. And his brutal honesty is not his mean of deliberately hurting others, but results from his personal ideas, despite him being otherwise extremely cynical.

In a roleplaying game, I made a character who was the nicest Shadowcaster you'd ever meet. She worshipped Pelor (The sun god) claiming that because shadows require light, which comes from pelor, it must be good. She regularly talked her way out of fights, and would even try to finish an enemy off with her non-lethal attacks, if reasonable. She wore blackened leather, carried around an umbrella, and got really angry when enemy spellcasters used the good power of shadow for evil purposes.

This troper had an old friend who was extreme in her goth/emo dress. She was also one of the nicest and cheeriest people this troper has met.

Me. Just me. I listen to lots of metal (especially death metal), wear lots of black, have long hair and a giant goatee, wear a Longcoat}} black leather duster everywhere from fall through spring, and is consistently referred to as an incredibly nice guy. I try pretty hard to be as nice as possible.

This troper got some strange looks walking down the street with her friend, both dressed entirely in black, laughing hysterically, locking arms and skipping, patting each other's heads... Additionally, her boyfriend, who dresses like a simplistic Hot Topic goth, is the nicest boy she has ever met.

All year round, every day, This troper wears long blue jeans and a black-colored heavy metal t-shirt. I'm a devout liberal Christian and an ActualPacifist.

This troper's favourite colour to wear is black (with blue being a close second), listens to a lot of rock and metal music (and is currently typing this while listening to Nightwish's song "Wish I Had An Angel": look up the lyrics and make of that what you will) and is rather anti-social to strangers. He is, however, one of the nicest guys in his school (for some quick maths: he's 17 3/4 on the posting date (18/2/11)), has an incredibly level temper (he's not been in a fight for over five years, despite enough abuse from some people lasting at least three years (it's not as bad as it was: some of it was pretty bad, but, when he started studying for his A-Levels, it mostly faded away, as most of the abusers left school)...and the last fight was an agreed one, so it didn't technically count: the last unagreed one was six years ago and the other person had basically been abusing him for half a year both in school and out (she walked the same way home he did), so he feels it was justified) and is a pacifist on the level that he will not strike the first blow in a physical fights.

This troper is known for wearing the color black. It is a color he feels fits him, due to various reasons. He's also African-American, and so he gets in trouble a lot with the police ,particularly because he looks suspicious. He is a FriendToAllChildren, JerkWithAHeartOfGold, and borderline TheMessiah. Wears black pants, black shirt, black hat, and black steel-toe shoes. Though in his personal opinion, he's something of a subversion.

This she-Troper. Pagan, bisexual, Geek Chic with hints of Indie Goth. Although slow to warming up to people, relationships are vital. Couple that with a short stature, and one has a lovely dark doll with frightening intellect to cherish.

Pick any employee in Hot Topic at the mall near this troper. Despite the fact they're some kind of "rebellious" stereotype incarnate, they treat you like they're your friend.

This Pretty Goth Chick troper has gotten many, MANY stares and many people sent scurrying in the other direction just because of her looks. 99% of my clothes are black, and the stuff that isn't is red. Big metal music fan who enjoys walking around in long skirts, boots, pentagram necklace, and a trenchcoat adorned with all sorts of buckles and metal thingamajigs. Has been called "emo" ONCE (definitely gave that person a death glare, GOTHS AND EMOS ARE NOT THE SAME,) "goth" numerous times (which I am happy to accept,) and even been called a devil-worshipper (which funnily enough, I am now, and this trope applies to that too!) Everyone who gets to know me says I'm one of the nicest people they have ever met, my teachers commented if I "wasn't so lazy, could be in Honors classes," and I am VERY shy (Social Anxiety Disorder anyone?) I also have a "For the Horde!" t-shirt, and a Legendary Warlock t-shirt. Plus I'm a huge nerd, I even love math.

In the stories of this Troper, Darkness in human form is represented as a shy, weepy YamatoNadeshiko. Then there's her "mother" Water, who actually has ''darker'' skin and hair than she does; and alternately gives just about everyone she interacts with tons of affection and tons of physical and emotional abuse!

This troper has the tendency to get the cold shoulder from her classmates for being a horror fan with a darker than dark sense of humour and a particularly sinister appearance. People are actually shocked by the fact that she is optimistic, polite, and very friendly.

This troper does weird things with this trope. I look utterly, utterly girly (fond of makeup, dresses, heels, jewelry, etc.), am a laid-back optimist, and...delight in morbid things. It's a running joke among my friends that I'll go cannibalize small children when I get too hungry and my poetry-course classmates are amused that all of my stuff winds up about poison or murder or the gruesome death of a goldfish cracker. I've had quite a few people get freaked out overhearing such conversations, and it took a long time for aforementioned classmates to realize that finding creepy stuff interesting doesn't necessarily make me a crazy, gloomy, unhappy person.

This troper is working on a subversion in one of her stories, where the leader of the group of heroes is visually a Terminator {{Expy}} who is the most intelligent and well-spoken of the team, whereas the villain looks like an incredibly beautiful human.

This troper wears nothing but black and tends to hang out in the background, simply because I like the color and I'm a fairly shy person. Deadpan Snarker to the extreme, as well as fairly cynical. I've dressed this way since fourth or fifth grade, and I've been called "goth" or "emo" often, even though I don't identify myself as such. I'm too lazy to do the fashions correctly, and I dislike metal music and many other stereotypically "goth" things. Dark humor is the best kind of humor, and I tend to stay pretty quiet if you don't know me. However, if you do know me, I'm probably one of the most silly, nice, loud and sarcastic people you'll meet. I can never seem to stop cracking jokes, as sarcasm and humor are my security blankets. I'm also fiercely loyal to any friends, and I tend to be the one friends come to for advice.