AnalogyBackfire
#5278
This troper, after watching a "Ripples" comic...thing (Which has it's own analogy backfire) thought of this: #QUOTE# '''Me''': Instead of saying "lives are drops in a bucket", the guy should've said "lives are like grains of sand in a really big bucket." #QUOTE# '''Aerith''': How so? #QUOTE# '''Me''': There are lots of them, each one makes the mountain a little bigger, they all look alike but they're all different, they fall on top of each other, get buried after a while. #QUOTE# '''Bob''': And they get in your swimsuit and scratch your butt. And if you burn them really really hot they turn into glass. #QUOTE# '''Me''': And they're partially made of sea animal's feces #QUOTE# '''Bob''': this shouldn't make that much sense #QUOTE# '''Aerith''': And they can make up castles that will be destroyed by an average wave.
#5279
It's a visual novel.
#5280
This is my personal favorite #QUOTE#'''Me:''' You know, sex is a lot like a cake. #QUOTE# '''Alice:''' Multi-tiered? #QUOTE# '''Bob:''' Better when it's chocolate? #QUOTE# '''Alice:''' Never as good as you hoped? #QUOTE# '''Bob:''' Always finished too early? #QUOTE# '''Me:''' You know what, sex is a lot more like a terrible analogy. You think it starts off good but then someone else butts in and ruins the whole thing.
#5281
This troper is a complete subversion. He uses analogies all the time and never fails to make it an appropriate one.
#5282
Same here, buddy. The only time I ever failed an analogy was because it turned out that we were talking about 2 separate things.
#5283
This troper has stated that he wishes clubs at his school were more like they are in anime. Like HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi! Well... except for all the friends murdering each other. Uh, yeah.
#5284
Go for a SuzumiyaHaruhi-style [=SOS=] Brigade.
#5285
This same troper has thought about that one as well, but every member is Haruhi's slave, and they have to be mysterious. However, this troper could be the brainy crippled CuteShotaroBoy.
#5286
This troper was telling one of her online friends how she preferred Han Solo to Luke Skywalker, but still had a soft spot for Luke, and went on to say that "Luke is like a cute dumb puppy that sometimes runs into things but is so cute you still want to cuddle him sometimes...okay, that analogy got really weird really fast..."
#5287
... how so?
#5288
This troper HATES sharing her writing, and her family just doesn't seem to understand why, no matter how many times she explains. She tried to come up with a comparison: "It's like...if you made soup, and you were better at most people than making soup, and nobody else in your family made soup, so they wanted to eat the soup you made. But you had had better soup before, and you didn't want to share your soup with your family because it wasn't as good as...oh, this is SO not working!"
#5289
Try to change "soup" with "pie". Then, it might work. Well, I explain to my family that they wouldn't like the stories I write because it's not their favorite genre, and it would be like forcing her to drink coffee; she wouldn't understand, and surely wouldn't ''like'' it.
#5290
Try this. Writing is a lot like sex. It's better when your family isn't involved.
#5291
Says you. My sincerest apologies for that imagery.
#5292
I sometimes do these on purpose to regain the attention of the College Algebra class I'm teaching. It's just like when you're trying to attract a squirrel to feed it a piece of bread, except instead of bread, I'm trying to feed...knowledge...to the squirrel...
#5293
This troper has attempted to explain her writing process as being akin to paleontology; you unearth the skeleton, then you cram meat on the skeleton until it's a dinosaur, and then it eats you just like the ones in ''Jurassic Park''...wait.
#5294
Actually, all writers are being eaten wholly and regurgitated by their own works; it's a good thing, it means you are being involved with the story at its entirety, making it more complex, like you were living each of these characters' lives. A better metaphor would be building your own Virtual Reality game and testing it every once in a while to correct bugs and deveplop it better.
#5295
{{Andrusi}} once participated in this (paraphrased) exchange: #QUOTE#"You see, [=MSPaint=] isn't a ''stripped-down'' graphics program compared to inherently superior software, it's a ''simplified'' program that sacrifices advanced features for ease of use." #QUOTE#"Oh, I get it! It's like an aircraft carrier on land! Sure it can't move, but planes can still take off and land on it, so it ''must'' still be useful, right?" #QUOTE#"You mean an airport? Yes, it's like that." (Yeah, that's what I should have said.)
#5296
This troper has the ''worst'' from the batch. Some of them involve gut damage, or dead babies. She says that a published author cancelling their works for personal reasons is like a mother aborting a baby because she's worried about her own life. Well, you understood it, I guess.
#5297
Another related-to-fictionn example: this troper was commenting on how people in S-Cry-Ed think based on their alter. Kazuma thinks with his fist, Ryuho lives by the sword, Straight Cougar thinks on his feet, Tachibana thinks with his... balls? That doesn't sound right.
#5298
This troper is an atheist and does not like Christian teachings. Some time ago, someone tried do convince her that she's wrong with the homily about unborn babies in a womb, disputing about whether mother exists or not. She answered: "Poor babies! They do not know that their mother is a psychopath that keeps children she likes and roasts ones she doesn't in a microwave!".
#5299
You're right, that was a bad analogy. Babies aren't self-aware in the womb, and they haven't really done anything right or wrong yet. Plus, that mother really ''is'' a psycho if she '''roasts''' babies in a microwave; everyone knows you don't roast in a microwave!
#5300
This troper had the following exchange with a friend. Note that all of this troper's analogies turn out like this. #QUOTE#"You know, saying that God doesn't exist while living on earth is saying that artists don't exist while visiting a museum. It doesn't make sense." #QUOTE#"But aren't paintings flammable?" #QUOTE#"So are people."
#5301
Does too make sense. Natural laws and all that. This troper should shut up now; this is not a good debate to start.
#5302
I'm not afraid to start the argument. I'm an atheist and there are SCIENTIFIC principles showing how Earth came together WITHOUT a God. And before you try to pull the "God caused the Big Bang" argument, explain LOGICALLY where your 'God' came from. And no, I won't accept circular reasoning.
#5303
You're arguing against a being defined as having always existing by claiming it needed to have "came" from something. Let's presume you're educated. There's a good argument that any and all singularities at the beginning or end of the universe as we know it still occur on a mappable, definable point of space time (looking at it using imaginary time.) The implication here is that the universe would then always exist, sans a point of creation- it would just BE. No problems there, but the instant one talks about a deity, you pull a double standard. And that's the first of your problems. *sigh*
#5304
Space-time existed before the Big Bang. Unless you're claiming it magically appeared from nothing. Believer or not, you're still claiming that something has existed forever and just IS.
#5305
There's scientific evidence pointing the other way too. This isn't the place to start that argument, and you should know it. It's funny how the other side is being less emotional about it -- and in the future, don't assume the other side is a bunch of illogical idiots before you even start.
#5306
Children! Don't make me turn this trope around! I'll beat y'alls asses with a switch if you don't behave!
#5307
Not all museums are art museums.
#5308
This troper once compared someone's stupid post on a forum to a trainwreck, but with a train made of puppies running into walls. Who was it with the stupid post, again?
#5309
This troper was panicked when she first learned to drive. People kept telling her it was just like video games. Except that in video games, when you crash you get penalized. In real life, when you crash you get dead.
#5310
I've been told before that my mind is like a steel trap. To which I usually reply, "You mean dangerous and illegal?"
#5311
This (frustratingly forgetful) Troper has claimed on occasion to have a mind like a steel trap...a ''rusted'' steel trap, which lets nothing in or out. More often, he has claimed to have a mind like a steel ''sieve'', with very large holes. (He forgets all of the big, important stuff because it leaks out through the holes. All of the trivia he knows about Star Wars, Star Trek, The Princess Bride, etc., is too small to fall through the holes. Ummm...)
#5312
"This is what I call the Iwo Jima Defense!" "Iwo Jima fell."
#5313
One of this troper's friends has a girlfriend who is a bonafide lethal chef. Once, when his friend and he expressed doubts about one of the girlfriend's concoctions: #QUOTE#Friend: Just think of yourself as Laika. #QUOTE#This Troper: How appropriate, seeing as how Laika died.
#5314
This Troper has an unpublished story in which one character is talking about her relationship with a friend. #QUOTE#Character: We're just good friends. She's like the Kirk to my Spock. #QUOTE#Friend: uh...
#5315
The analogy backfire is actually pretty accurate, given the {{UST}} between the two of them.
#5316
Which is clearly what the original poster was getting at.
#5317
This troper's group of friend played a rather mean joke on our resident Omega, although I wasn't there at the start. He was asked whether he liked apple or cherry pie, apple meaning men, cherry meaning women. He didn't get it and answered that he liked both, thinking we were talking about ''actual pie.'' It was made worse by the fact that we wouldn't tell him what it meant, so he kept listing the reasons he liked apple pie, how he liked to eat it, and that it was not wrong to like apple pie (Likes it with ice cream on top, will bring one to school and eat it in front of us next week, etc.), all of which could be taken two ways. It was very entertaining. We still haven't told him, and when I flat-out told him it was an analogy, he replied that he didn't know what the word meant.
#5318
Well, how the hell was he supposed to know? Or is talking about people as pies common wherever it is you live?
#5319
This troper had one of these: #QUOTE#Marketing teacher: Don't build it and they will come. MARKET it and they will come. #QUOTE#Troper: No wonder I can't get anyone to come. #QUOTE#Classmate: That's what she said.
#5320
Sort of an inversion: When we were in Life Management class-in which the TV was on Cartoon Network, and showing Pokemon 2000, due to the begging of the class (mind you this was in Sophmore year)-my friend noted how Lugia was getting ganged up on. #QUOTE#Me: ...waitaminute...3 people ganging up on one guy trying to protect the environment...released in 2000...OH MY GOD! THIS IS ABOUT THE BUSH/GORE ELECTION! #QUOTE#Friend: ...what.
#5321
This troper once drove past a church marquee that read, "Satan offers first class accommodations on the Titanic." While I assume the intended message was that a life of sin will eventually lead to a horrible fate, somebody probably should have reminded whoever came up with that one that the Titanic's first class passengers had a greater chance of surviving the disaster than anyone else on board.
#5322
This troper once tried to describe why she thought that her sister and one of her male friends would make a cute couple: #QUOTE#'''Me:''' They just look good together. They fit together, he wraps around her like a piece of jerky.
#5323
Back in high school, This Troper decided to compete in a state-wide performing arts contest. Since my high school was huge, it was always able to send a lot of teams to compete at the state competition, and I happened to be in one of them. Anyway, while everyone was waiting for the bus to arrive and take us to the competition, one of the other students decided to get everyone excited. He stood on a table and gave a rousing speech that compared us to the 300 Spartans (the movie had just come out), saying we would kick ass like they did. Right after he said that, This Troper--who hadn’t seen 300 but had paid attention in history class--immediately pointed out that ''all of the 300 Spartans died.''
#5324
This troper is prone to these, mainly because of her {{Cloudcuckoolander}} tendencies. Most recent example as of this edit: #QUOTE#'''Me:''' Sorry I keep asking so many questions. I'm just deficient at [=RPing=]. #QUOTE#'''Other person:''' Stop putting yourself down! #QUOTE#'''Me:''' I'm not putting myself down. Take the number 42, for instance. It's "deficient" because the sum of its proper factors is less than itself, but that doesn't make it...okay, worst analogy ever.
#5325
Factually incorrect as well: like all multiples of six, 42 is abundant, not deficient.
#5326
A few years ago, back in High School, Greenpeace came in to speak with with us about the Oilsands (I'm an Albertan) and they began shillinga protesting where Protestors would wear {{VforVendetta}} Guy Fawkes masks, so "They can be like V and Guy Fawkes and stand up for what [we] believe in." The Analogy starts to fall apart about threefold. First, in the comics V was arguably psychotic. Seceond, there's a major difference between "Peaceful Protest" and "Blowing something up taking a lot of innocent people with it to prove a point." Thrid, there's the threory that had the Gunpowder Plot succeeded, well, the Anti-Catholic Backlash in England would have been immense, and Guy Fawkes would have basically shot his cause in the foot.
#5327
This troper thinks ''StarTrek'''s "even/odd" rule doesn't work anymore, after the disappointment of ''StarTrekNemesis'', the 10th Trek film, and the massive success of ''Star Trek'', the 11th Trek film. So people really ought to stop using it to describe perceived {{sequelitis}} in any movie series.
#5328
Though some solve the rule by turning GalaxyQuest into Entry #10.
#5329
One time, this troper was going up against someone in chess and was feeling pretty confident, but they couldn't think of a good analogy, so they used...David and Goliath. (To make matters worse, this troper is an atheist.) One of the people at the desk had pointed this out, but unfortunately for them, the analogy backfire itself backfired, and this troper still won the game.
#5330
A team of this troper's freshmen was named "Chiquititas" (Spanish for "little girls", and also the name of a cheesy Argentinian soap opera which was popular in my country). To turn it more manly, they started calling it "Chiquititans". At a certain point, the troper remembered that the titans painted themselves as invincible, but were defeated... (it got even worse when they lost to the class just below them... just like the titans were defeated by their sucessors, the Greek gods!)
#5331
I tend to favor lawful behavior over good behavior. When criticized for this, I argue the idea of moral relativism and suggest that law exists to create a widely accepted definition of good, rather than let everyone create their own definitions. On the moral relativism point, I refer to an anecdote from a sociology textbook I once had. It involved visiting a foreign nation that routinely ate their loved ones when they passed away and, when told of overseas culture, was shocked by the wasteful idea of burying dead bodies in the ground. Unfortunately, whenever I tell this anecdote, the other person always reminds me of the existence of kuru.
#5332
This troper notices that ANYTHING relating downloading content on the internet to stealing is a poor analogy if that, and sees that analogy FAR TOO OFTEN. I and many others would subvert AnalogyBackfire and say: "Why don't you start copying the dinner you'll eat and give that to the starving kids in Africa?" Still, it's better than what those other people came up with.
#5333
This troper said that one of his friends getting engaged at a young age was "very ''Romeo and Juliet''". Cue fist in mouth when I was reminded what happens at the end.
#5334
This Troper's art teacher once told the mother of one of this Troper's friends that said friend, I and another classmate were like the triumvirate (he meant, we were the top three guys in our class). She immedeately responded with: "They're trying to kill each other?"
#5335
I didn't catch the whole conversation, but I did hear my Latin teacher say, regarding the Spanish teacher next door, "We're not FLIRTING! We share a wall! Like Pyramus and Thisbe!"
#5336
I once asked after my schoolage friend while talking to one of his classmates on Facebook chat. She tried to convince me that he had died of some unknown disease, and suggested that I, 'not forget to grieve'. #QUOTE#'''Her''': have a wonderfull day butter remeber to grieve #QUOTE#'''Me''': I think I'll pass since the likelyhood of [my friend] actually being dead is roughly on a par with that of the Earth colliding with the Sun.
#5337
Some time later, I noticed the rather large flaw in my analogy: Due to the Sun's eventual expansion, the Earth more than likely will collide with the Sun... in 7.5 billion years time.