This troper has discovered that there are both types in real life, but type 2 just tend to be much louder.

This troper thinks it's kind of annoying that people accuse Americans of being closed-minded when we have so many awful, AWFUL stereotypes leveled against us. (For the record, I'm so quiet in real life that people thought I was Canadian when I went there.)

This Tropess isn't sure what she is. (Switches to first person)I am not anti-patriotic, when I travel outside of the US, I say that I am from America. I don't say the pledge of allegiance though, because I believe that patriotism cannot be conveyed through saluting an inanimate object. However, I have seen how incredibly brutal capitalism can be (my father was laid off and it was incredibly hard for him to get another job, something that would not have happened in a socialist nation due to necessary regulations). And, I am more of an Anglophile than an America-phile and plan to live in London when I finish school.

This troper has known international students (not being PC, that's their actual classification) who will happy say that most Americans are just normal people. Of course, the phrase "except unusually nationalistic, overly religious and with an economic and governmental policy that makes no sense" tends be to said in some variation with the Europeans that this troper has known, but he it writes it off to centuries of cultural development in different circumstances and accept them as generally good folks just trying to make it through the day despite the unintentional jab.

This American troper hails from the BigApplesauce. We don't get a lot of type 2's because as soon they show up we drop kick them right back to Texas. (kidding, kidding...)

This American Troper was hanging with a bunch a friends at a university known for its large International students, most of whom were playing cards. One kid began a video conference with his parents in Sri Lanka. We didn't hear the parent's end of the conversation, but the friend informed us that his mother had seen the three of us (this troper being the smallest American in the crowd at 200 lbs) and was concerned that he might have quit school and joined a group of American Thugs. We all found this hilarious (especially since the card game being played was Magic) and insisted on being in frame during all his conference calls, vaguely talking about things in the trunks of our cars that are starting to smell and need to be gotten rid of.. Just goes to show you, it might be a negative stereotype, but Americans do find it quite funny.

Another conversation with the same friend ended with me shouting "AMERICA'S CHIEF EXPORT IS AWESOMENESS!"

This American troper is quite happy to behave as a Type 2 Eaglelander for just long enough to catch people off guard when I switch to my normal reserved personality.

This Troper, despite being ''Canadian'', happily bases his behaviour on StephenColbert when in public, just to mess with people. Like the above Troper, he's actually pretty reserved.

Which one?

This European troper has been known to frequent political forums, and in his (hopefully poorly representing of reality) experience the average American poster is a type 2 convinced they're a type 1. Clearly the nefarious work of the above troper.

Isn't that basically the definition of flavour 2?

Sounds like {{GIFT}} at work here.

This troper has seen, firsthand, the source of flavour two. A tourist who weighed at least two hundred kilos, red as a beetroot, and eating an ice cream sandwich (using the term loosely, since most of it was on her face). I would never have believed it had I not seen it myself.

I feel for you. Every time I see one of them (which is often due to the area I live in) I keep thinking to myself "I'm not really an American, I'm actually a Canadian who was adopted long ago" wishing it were true.

Hold it: You decided that this person was type 2 based purely on her looks? I'm not sure you should be the one making these types of judgments.

This American Troper finds it much easier to suppose the ''opposite'', namely that those kinds of people are the ones who aren't actually American.

When this troper went around Europe he discovered a decent number of both types, but found the type 2s stand out more because they tend to be VERY LOUD. A memorable instance of type 2ism occurred in a cafe in Amsterdam. #QUOTE#'''American:''' Do you have any freshly squeezed orange juice?\\ '''Waitress:''' I'm sorry? \\ '''American:''' FRESHLY. SQUEEZED. OOOORANGE. JUICE. Do you even speak English? Do you know where the hell you are? \\ '''Me:''' ...

This American troper believes that the appropriate response to that is to turn the sarcasm UpToEleven and say "I'm sorry, sir, I don't speak a single word of Americanese. Could you please repeat that in International English or [any other language you happen to speak]?"

This troper, also American, would like to point out a translation error. That customer was not speaking Americanese; he was speaking JerkAss, which is indeed an international language. In fact, it may be one of the most common ones.

This troper thinks you're just asking for trouble if you go and claim that Americans are the only English-speaking people with their own variant of the language, with snark like that. [[Tropers/{{Wheezy}}]] has the right idea here.

They are the only country I know that has mistakenly put the American flag next to the English language option.

The thing that makes it all the more hilarious is that they were in AMSTERDAM, in the NETHERLANDS, where they speak DUTCH. At least acknowledge the fact that the local language is not English, or alternatively ask "Hebben jullie nog vers geperst sinaasappelsap."

Though it's most likely that the waitress spoke English, because WE ALL SPEAK ENGLISH! Don't ask why, we just do.

This Canadian troper has only been in two areas in the States over the past five years. The first was Miami, Florida, during a trip to South America that required changing planes. The second is the Northwest (Washington and Idaho) because this... okay, I'm going to have to use "I" a lot to convey this message properly... I live in British Columbia. Now in both places, the people were mostly nice, if quite prone to making mistakes on the job, which fortunately didn't apply to the police when my younger brother got lost in the Los Angeles airport (long story). In the Northwest, this troper couldn't even remember he was in the US until seeing anything with the US Mail logo on it, which happened more than once since the number of mailboxes I saw was unusually high.

However, I encountered exactly ''one'' person who was definitely a Flavor 2 Eaglelander. In Silverwood theme park in Idaho, there were a lot of fat tourists, but I never talked to them so I'm not going to stereotype. But when my parents weren't there after getting off a roller coaster, I asked the clerk at the hotdog stand near where I saw them last if she'd seen them. This one fat caucasian guy in a hawaiian print shirt, who wasn't even next in line for getting something from the stand, says "Yeah, well maybe you've got bad parents!". Now complaining that I was holding up the line would have been one thing, but with that comment I was about to defend my parents abilities when they walked out of the restroom beside the hotdog stand. If he hadn't been in his own country, I swear that he'd just be reaffirming the opinion that Americans are lazy, arrogant jerks.

You were lucky to only have to deal with one of them. Silverwood is usually packed with Flavor Twos (mostly from California, which isn't to say all Californians are like that). Had you asked the hot dog vendor about the tourist you'd have probably gotten either the same explaination as I just gave you or something along the lines of "fucking Californians" (depending on how old she was and how long ago it was).

This American troper is CONSTANTLY complaining about both types, but type 2 a little more so. Don't get me wrong: I love my country. I just hate the conservatism and certain restraining things about our culture that I never have to deal with over seas.

As an American (I don't really identify as flavor 1 and certainly not as flavor 2) I'd just like to say that we're really just normal people. I've talked with Aussies, Brits, New Zealanders and other English speaking people from places like Japan and Mexico and I honestly haven't been able to tell them apart from Americans until they told me where they were from. Most of us are polite and open-minded, but unfortunately there are some of us who are obnoxious and rude.

You know, if you look at a perfectly blank piece of paper with one black dot on it, your eyes will inevitably be drawn to the dot. It's only the loud, obnoxious, rude people who get noticed, because they stand out.

As an American Troper living in the TheMiddleEast, my general experience has been that Americans who are traveling or living in much of the Arab world actively try to subvert this trope, especially since the negative perception of America in response to decades of support for Israel and the Iraq War.

This troper was in China 2 years ago, and was asked by a pair of girls "What kind of gun do you have?" This troper happens to be a crossbowman.

Something similar happened to this troper's friend in a hostel in Germany. A German family asked to be moved to a different room because "they're Americans, they have guns."

As an American troper, I went to Europe on a cruise around the British Isles. There seemed to be quite a few elderly American jerkasses who almost seemed to enjoy getting angry at the almost entirely non-American staff, who pretty much do everything but wipe your ass when you go to the bathroom. The workers on the ship are almost obscenely polite as part of their job description, too.

My handle is Eeglelander so it's natural for me to put an entry here. I like to think of myself as type 1 and try to be whenever I travel internationally or when talking with international visitors. Apparently I must be living in an alternate universe from the one the main page describes; because every time I go on a trip, people comment to my parents or bachelors on how polite we are. (Including our Grecian tour guide says most hotels prefer American guests to Greeks because we tend to be nicer; to the rooms, staff, and each other.) When my cousin was hosting a foreign student from Germany, she said she really liked it here and had been to more places across the U.S. than I have. I'm not being modest here I was surprised on both occasions.

This Troper's Brother In Law is a perfect example of type 2, don't believe me? check out ''this picture'' bonus, the reason he painted the bike like that is "so everyone on the road will know I'm from AMERICA!"

But is your brother-in-law an asshole?

This Dutch troper met an American couple on vacation in Italy. They must've been really aware of their image... #QUOTE#'''Me:''' "So where exactly are you from? I can't place your accent..."\\ '''Husband:''' "We're from California."\\ '''Wife:''' "We hate Bush too."

This troper and his family did this word for word on a ski trip in Canada while talking to a British couple. This was in 2003, too, at the height of Bush's popularity and long before hating him was the norm. It genuinely surprised them to hear Americans calling him a warmongering idiot...for 15 minutes straight.

This French troper works in a shop in a famous touristic place and is often in contact with US visitors. Suffice it to say she has come face to face with pretty much all flavours of {{Eagleland}}ers. I remember particularly obnoxious type 2s, who demanded to be given English versions of French movies that weren't even published abroad and said that it was poor service that our shop offered non-English-subtitled works in a touristic place. Not to mention they made more noise in the shop than the whole crowd of visitors. OTOH, she also remembers charming elderly Type 1s who were extremely respectful and unassuming and who understood perfectly that, in a non-English-speaking country, not everything is meant for English speakers.

That's the thing about us Americans: When we go abroad, you never know what you're going to get.

So, you're saying we're like a box of chocolates?

...Yes.

And that's all I have to say about that.

This troper always feels really patriotic listening to country music...My thoughts on it are that we have an awesome country, but the people currently in power SUCK.

You, too!?

I can assure you that this isn't uniquely American in any way. I believe about half the world feels that way...

This troper had the misfortune of taking a day-trip across the Canadian border with an elderly fellow who insisted on wearing American flag-patterned suspenders. When we returned that evening, he made a point of remarking to the border guard about "how good it felt to be back in the country."

If anyone's interested, the reason that we in the US are so pitifully monolingual is that, besides Spanish, there are really no other languages spoken enough for the majority of people to learn. There are around 100 widely represented- if this troper wanted to learn the second languages spoken in her school, she would need to learn Mandarin, two dialects of Cantonese, Tamil, Urdu, Russian, Belarussian, German, and Hindi (and this isn't even a particularly diverse city), but these are really only spoken by a few people. Contrast to Europe, where kids de facto learn three languages before they can read because their mother speaks Provencial, their father speaks Italian, and their teacher speaks English. Also, many people in the southern US can manage quite good Spanish, but won't count themselves as speaking the language even if they can understand it perfectly, which skews statistics a bit.

Quoi?! Je parle comme-çi comme-ça français et resider en texas! Tu fais de la recerche! Mon dieu...it's not my first language, either. America has tons of different languages, most of which are available for the majority of people to learn. It's not that there's a lack of language, it's that there's a lack of motivation. Colleges teach Arabic. ''Arabic.'' Some even teach Chinese, which has no discernible alphabet. America has languages everywhere, coming ''out the ass.''

I think the OP meant that even if all of those languages are taught in the US, there's no way to use them in daily life. This American troper speaks German, but I almost never use it, whereas in Europe, there's a lot more chances to practice using the language you're trying to learn.

This troper has an entire fake Canadian backstory cooked up in case he encounters any America-haters or obnoxious type-2's on his various international travels.

This (American) Tropette has encountered a few Type-1's, and hardly any Type-2's. However, my Human Geography teacher (who is American) firmly believes that each and every student is a complete Type-2, and it's her duty to instill 'proper' loving, accepting open-mindedness in us. She constantly reminds the class that Americans are all loud and wasteful. She treats international students like exotic curiosities, and won't let a day go by without interrogating the poor bastards about their region of origin. She seems to have decided that being nosy and intrusive and being a BoomerangBigot is "welcoming," and those of us who treat everyone the same, regardless of nationality or race, are "harsh" and "judgmental."

This troper had an art teacher who firmly believed that all foreign students were such hard workers compared to Americans. It was amusing to see his world shaken when a German exchange student failed his class and left after the first nine weeks.

This Austrian troper, since having spent over a month in Texas, finds herself regularly defending the type-1s from her family.

I ''hate'' Type 2s. Can you PLEASE stop giving Americans a bad name, you bastards?!

Wariness and disgust of Type 2s is the reason that my family and I say, "We're from New York," whenever we travel internationally. And yes, I do mean the city. Foreigners are a lot more accepting of that.

Kotaku had an article about an armed Gamestop robber shot dead by police. Two separate people cried foul. Several other commenters and myself decided to correct their misconceptions; there's no safe way to shoot someone, it's hard to shoot someone in what's traditionally considered a "non-lethal area" while they're running away, six bullets between four cops isn't much, assuming the single witness quoted a)counted correctlyeyewitnesses counted different numbers of shots in other sources for the story. and b)all the bullets hit, resisting arrest is not a right, and that both commenters were jumping to conclusions. One accused me of "americanism", right after he had declared US cops were too trigger happy and I had destroyed all his arguments. I gleefully informed him that I was a Bahamian living in Britain, and that he was a bigot. The other basically insisted that cops should somehow be able to tell which of their brothers fired how many shots and which hit. I gave up on him.

Incidentally, most of these Brits tend to mistake me for an American. I have a lot more American-sounding accent than most of my countrymen. I've also decided not to use my BritishAccents here, which I normally do for fun at home, in case some Brit thinks the stupid American's taking the piss out of them and punches me in the face.

In the event that I ever travel overseas, I have no intention of pretending to be from Canada or wherever. I'm proud of what I am and no one (Type 2s or foreigners assuming me to be a type 2) can take that from me. Of course, I'll be sure to learn the language and be as polite as I can. I am of the firm opinion that you should never visit another country without at least learning the basics of the language.

When this American troper was in eighth grade, they had an assignment to make up a country and draw a picture of it. While most of the students were making Candysugarymarysuefantasylands, I attempted to do a realistic poor country. Before I knew about TV Tropes, in my picture I drew some Type 2 {{Eagleland}} tourists smiling with cameras and umbrella hats with the poor citizens of the country selling rotting fruits in the background. I also drew one of the country's people with a [=McDonald's=] sweatshirt and no pants. Yeah, I didn't get a very good grade, stupid girl who glued candy wrappers all over her project beat me, but my country's picture and description was pretty bad anyway. On the plus side, I was the only one to give mine a flag and Coat of Arms.

Wait. What. Some dumbass gluing candy wrappers to her picture and making a stereotypical utopia bullshit thing thing beat you doing something against the norm that was unique and realistic? Especially when you went the extra mile and made both a flag AND a Coat of Arms? What. The. Hell.

This troper feels there is some irony in the whole thing, considering so many foreigners claim to despise us here in the states, yet seem to love everything about us in the same breath. You want to make it big, where do you go? To the U.S.

This troper thinks the irony goes even further, as the kinds of people who talk about how loud and obnoxious Americans are... ''tend to be loud and obnoxious themselves''. While not always the case, entertainers like Jeremy Clarkson do come across as arrogant and overly vocal enough to pretty much pass for the very stereotypes they joke about to others.

Despite being Christian and British, This troper absolutley HATES the "Patriotic" Type 2's who assume all Muslims are war-craving, womanising, arab terrorists. Such hate may have come from the fact I grew up in the UAE, and that I'm good friends with a rather nice Muslim couple (Neither of who are Arabic. The husband is a Black Brit and the wife is a Singaporean, and she never wears a veil or gown.) But what REALLY hurts me is the comment section of a certain Cracked Article debunking several assumptions about Muslims made by Type 2s, and the maker of the article wanted people to be reasonable in the comments. Right off the bat, an incredibly rabid patriot makes some incredibly ignorant and outright racist comments about muslims (Even calling Mohammed a ''TERRORIST'') along with responses AGREEING WITH HIM. The sad thing is that I've met some genuinely nice Americans, it's just that it seems to me that for every nice American Person, there are twenty type 2s.

It's not so much that there are more type 2s as it is the type 1s are a lot quieter and the type 2s are a lot louder. Also, if it was on Cracked, I wouldn't be surprised if the people making comments were trolls.

I agree with above on both counts. The Type 1 Eaglelanders are usually much more quiet and polite than their type 2 counterparts, because of that they don't get noticed as often and even when they do they are usually forgotten about a lot sooner than the the type 2s. As for Cracked, it's known for having a ridiculously stupid comment section that loves to stir up trouble just because it can. Also, a healthy chunk of the commenters aren't American, so I wouldn't form my opinion of Eaglelanders based on that website, or any website for that matter.

This troper has always been against the idea of Acceptable Targets, so she has been trying to convince people to stop thinking all Americans are the second type. The problem is, America keeps proving me wrong. We had a half-German exchange student from the USA who confirmed that those clique things at high school are real and not just Alluminium Christmas Trees, not to mention all the stuff on translated American TV.

One person's experiences don't necessarily equal everyone's experiences. America as a whole is very diverse and just as a lot of different countries will interpret something differently, we have people who will interpret something differently within our own country. Technically, neither Type 1 or Type 2 are a completely accurate representation of what America is like.

This troper generally describes himself as an equal opportunity hater, but reserves special hatred towards Americans, mostly due to being exposed to Flavour 2 frequently at a young age. As such, he simply views almost all Americans (especially WASP people) as Flavour 2 unless they prove otherwise. He refuses to be identified as an American or play most FPSes because he would have to play as an American soldier and often expresses the wish to either destroy or simply leave America. Yes he can be petty.

It's seems that the "equal opportunity" portion there is a bit disingenuous then, doesn't it? It seems that many times, self hating Americans exhibit many of the traits of the type 2's they frequently despise. Loud, aggressive, racially motivated and worst of all would rather stereotype than allow for an open mind. Damning a group until they "prove themselves innocent" is so close to typical type 2 rhetoric that the statement may as well be dripping in irony. This type of behavior however is fairly common in teenagers who either outgrow it or simply become bitter, regardless though, being petty is hardly a way to go through life.

This American Troper himself is mostly likely a mix of both of the types.I am not much of a JerkAss,more of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold actually.Also,I have values and morals,but not much patriotism.I don't really like the Type II's,even though I know to some people I tend to come off as one,sometimes.Its just while i'm a jerk,i'm very considerate of the feelings of others as well,but I don't like type I's better,because I believe "that anyone who accepts only the positive aspects of their nation,and not the negative aspects,are lying to themselves.The fact that I can bounce back and forth between the two,puts me in the "Mixed" area.

This troper has been working on a piece where the premise is an aggressive, totalitarian slant on Type I.

Chinese troper born of foreign parents, and proud American patriot. He does try to be as polite to foreigners as possible to compensate for the Type 2 guys, but still gets kind of ticked off when anti-American foreigners assume all Americans are Type 2.

The main thing this troper finds wierd is that you can critisize America all you want and there will be actual Americans who will back you up, but if Americans talk back, they're suddenly bigots.

This troper is half American/ half Canadian (Thanks Dad!). But I live in the US. When I traveled to Europe, I was very proud to represent my country, and acted as respectfully and attempted to be as courteous I could. When I was in Germany, I felt like a rockstar because everyone was so nice, polite and hospitable. When I was in France, I was treated equally nice, except for the bellboy at my hotel. While I may have been a type1 for most of my trip, the bellboy assumed I didn't know French, and dismissed me by saying "Good-bye, you !#$%ing stupid American." I slipped into Type-2 really, really fast.

Well, in that case I think any paying customer regardless of nationality would be justified in being pissed and treating the jackass in kind.

Welcome to America, sir. You're in God's country, and government's [[strike:got]]stays off your back. Yee-haw!

''Fucking border hoppers! Go back to that shithole you came from! U-S-A! U-S-A! '''YOU-ESS-AY!''' WOOOOO!!'' [drinks a bottle of beer and smashes it on forehead]