DoesNotUnderstandSarcasm
#34293
When this troper gets annoyed by people who don't understand sarcasm, I tend to retaliate by snarking very sarcastically at them. They don't understand it and I give vent to my irritation. It's not always really fair, I admit, but when someone is not annoying on purpose, like autists, I have a hard time telling them that they are, probably in fear for hurting them too much.
#34294
This troper has a friend, "A" who fits this trope like a glove. Not helped by the fact that this troper is a deadpan snarker, and their friend "M" is one of the wittiest and most sarcastic people there are. "A" will respond to any sarcastic remark with a surprised or defensive response no matter how extraordinary the remark is. She would respond to something like, but not extending to "yeah, 'cause you're a flying pink unicorn" with "no...? I'm not a unicorn". This troper only wishes she was kidding.
#34295
Most people with Asperger's Syndrome or high-functioning autism have difficulty in understanding it.
This troper actually has a the former, if in a fairly low degree. I understand sarcasm, but I almost always respond to it before I can stop myself. This leads people to think I don't understand it. Annoying, since I'm
very good at it.
#34296
Averted. This troper has Asperger's Syndrome, but not only gets sarcasm, but is a frequent user of it.
#34297
Have I been sleep-editing again?
#34298
You and me both, unknown troper
#34299
Subverted.
This Troper also has Asperger's and perceives sarcasm in excess for not being able to get it naturally.
#34300
Played with in
This Troper's case. She can certainly understand sarcasm and uses it herself. It wasn't until recently that it occured to her that she may not quite fully recognize ''satire''.
#34301
This troper has several friends who apparently have Aspergers and certainly don't understand sarcasm, but only when other people use it. They frequently use sarcasm themselves.
#34302
What they said. However, irony...is very hard. This Troper tends to take it totally deadpan...until comprehension dawns (a few minutes later).
#34303
Keep in mind that their ARE different degrees of A.S, and no two people with it are the same. Hell, this Autistic Troper is very sarcastic and has gotten multiple death threats (I'm still here, so I think most of those were jokes)for being a douche (My favorite one was when I was threatened with death via being sodomized by a lionfish, quite creative really). While I do understand this stuff, I don't "Feel" things the same way other humans do, the result, never had a girlfriend at 18 years old. So you can't just rope all those with A.S together, there are always deviations.
#34304
While it's true that some people with really bad cases of Asperger's just don't get sarcasm at all unless they're using it, there are a lot of them that do... most of the time. This troper is included in the second metaphorical bracket as ''sometimes'', the fact that someone's being sarcastic just doesn't register.
#34305
Another Aspie that both understands and uses sarcasm frequently here.
#34306
Inverted. People never understand when I'm being sarcastic. Most of the times, I have to point out I was being sarcastic just before they reply. Sometimes, people think I was being sarcastic when I clearly wasn't. Doesn't match with my DeadpanSnarker personality.
#34307
This troper had a very similar experience: she's very much a {{Deadpan Snarker}}, but went to high school with some very literal kids.
#34308
Just had this happen to me today. Poor dumb sophomore.
#34309
This troper has this problem times two: normal people ''sometimes'' understand when I'm sarcastic, but most of the time they just don't; AND both my brother and sister have some trouble understanding sarcasm themselves. Since this troper is much of a DeadpanSnarker most of the time, it can get quite annoying. Of course I'm always serious and I actually ''mean'' it when I say that I like that ridiculous pink shirt, for example
[/sarcasm]
#34310
This troper's mother does not understand sarcasm. Ever. Very infuriating because she thinks I am unfunny and thinks my friends were always laughing at me instead of with me.
#34311
Sounds like your mother is moonlighting as mine.
#34312
...Or, it could just mean you aren't funny.
#34313
This troper (who will refrain from leaving a name, in order to make it at least slightly more difficult to connect the potentially-insulting example to the specific person referenced) knows a (
quite possibly Straw) TheFundamentalist who assumes that any attempt at BlackHumor or anything that can be interpreted as sacrelige is deadly serious- to the point that he decried a joking treatise (that even included a
stinger) about "
coded messages" in a fish sandwich commercial for being a completely stupid, unreasonable attack on a perfectly decent corporation, and practically
Godwin-bombed the thread. People don't listen (or talk) to him much any more.
#34314
Wait, if it's "only" a straw-fundamentalist, doesn't that put your "does not understand sarcasm" example over the top?
#34315
This troper has to deal with people like this a lot. While many of his friends do recognize it, most other people he knows just... don't even seem to know what it is. Which isn't helped by the fact that this troper is a DeadpanSnarker to the point it's almost a reflex to speak like that.
#34316
My family had to come up with a signal for sarcasm so she wouldn't make an idiot of herself. (It was an American Sign Language "S" by the way)
#34317
This troper, upon sarcastically commenting on a person's inconsistent political views, was lambasted with enough BS that he ended conversation with "Sarcasm. It's a word. Look it up in the dictionary." The kicker? The guy ''actually promised to do so.'' Not only didn't he understand it, he didn't know it existed.
#34318
Around this troper, people learn to tolerate her "Oh, was that sarcasm?"s.
#34319
This troper is pretty sarcastic, yet seems to make a habit of coming across people who have no understanding of sarcasm, and despite my best efforts to make them realise I am being sarcastic will take me deadly serious. Worst thing is, most of these people are sarcastic themselves yet do it in such a way they will come across as deadly serious. Naturally they also think they are comedic geniuses, and I need to lighten up and learn to take a joke. Either that or that I don't take things serious enough because I think people are joking when they are being serious. Annoyingly even some of my friends don't seem to realise that smilies are a great way of showing if something is a joke or not when talking online. If I say something followed by :p or :), or LOL, I'm joking. If you say something without any of these, how am I to know if it's serious or a joke.
#34321
This Troper has issues with nobody understanding her sarcasm. ...ARG. One of the worst times was when I was in a school debate and used some sarcasm. The person who I was arguing with and half the class ''took me literally.'' I had to explain that I was being sarcastic. (The teacher, of course, brought up the point that some people do like sarcasm in debates, thank God.)
#34322
This troper was exceptionally gifted with sarcasm at a young age, mainly because my parents were constantly sarcastic. Now, having grown quite a lot, I've come to realize that I was a very special case; most pre-teens I'm forced to hang around ''do not'' understand sarcasm. It can be quite annoying because I handle stress by... becoming sarcastic... It really doesn't work for any of us.
#34323
In a real-life example of
Tropes are Not Bad, this troper was in a high school full of people who had no concept of sarcasm (or general wit at all) who he had a whole lot of fun with. There are few feelings more satisfying than peoples' moronic attempts at bullying being shot right back at them.
#34324
Sarcasm is a language in
this troper's class. Guess what trope the outcast falls under.
#34325
Most of the people this troper knows do understand sarcasm, but they don't recognize it when she uses it. She has come to realize that this is because her normal speaking voice sounds almost exactly like her sarcasm voice, unless she's extremely happy or angry.
#34326
This troper's entire family is prone to a bizarre mashup of playing this trope straight and inverting it. My parents, especially my dad, can be unexpectedly spontaneous and have a habit of announcing real but off-the-wall or out-of-the-blue plans (usually but not always for future vacations) in a way that's utterly indistinguishable from deadpan-delivery sarcasm. Meanwhile, I generally ''get'' their sarcastic jokes, but I often don't ''appreciate'' them due to either {{Anvilicious}}ness or me being made the butt of the joke or both. Either that or I automatically correct them. Also, my own sense of humor frequently involves facetiously riffing on a sarcastic remark, which is often taken to mean I took it literally when in fact I'm just enjoying an absurd mental image. (This along with a thousand other little misunderstandings has led them to believe I have Asperger's Syndrome.) I suppose the latter could be considered a subversion (a ''
real'' one).
#34327
I have to deal with this kind of people sometimes. God, do they annoy me. But you can still have some fun with those if you have at least one other person around who understands sarcasm.
#34328
For someone so tortured by the intellectual frailty of others, you sure have a poor grasp of grammar...
#34329
This troper is quite unreliable at detecting sarcasm. Sometimes I pick it up fine, sometimes I inexplicably fail. Even when I do get sarcasm, I sometimes find it amusing to go along with it as if it were intended seriously, which can result in mild confusion as people sometimes fail to realise when ''I'm'' being sarcastic. This may be because my sarcastic voice sounds just like my regular voice.
#34330
People don't tend to understand when I'm being flippant or sarcastic. They take everything I say at face value, which is kind of offensive, because that signifies that they assume I'm a moron. Apparently, in order for sarcasm to be read as sarcasm in the modern day, you have to use the voice, the obnoxious air quotes and roll your eyes so there's no possible way people can miss it. Of course, the worst part is it sucks any humour out of the situation because half the time I have to end up violating the rule of Don't Explain The Joke, or else we get sidetracked into an argument because they took my sarcasm seriously. Is it any wonder I don't always like to meet new people?
#34331
When this troper debates, he deliberately invokes this trope mainly on people who aren't used to his style of debating, and asks for clarification. Once the other person gives up, he comes back and snarks at them and painfully deconstruct their whole argument, with a
few logical fallacies, turning it into a pile of contradictions and assumptions. It crosses the line to {{Jerkass}}
more than once.
#34332
On the internet, it can be a bit hard for me. I'm pretty clueless anyway...
#34333
{{@/Bergil}} is both an example and an inversion for the same reason- since I
talk very fast normally, my "talking to idiots or small childern" voice (slow, lots of emphasis) sounds normal.
#34334
This troper usually understands sarcasm, but for some reason is unable to recognize when two or three individuals are being sarcastic.
#34335
This troper sits next to a guy with Asperger's in his History class. He's ''extremely'' intelligent and actually pretty funny, but his sense of humour is blunt and unrefined, whereas the {{Deadpan Snarker}} is dependent on a lack of proper expression and heavy irony. This leads to him looking at me for a few moments when I crack a joke before he gets back to work while the chick on the other side of me is sniggering.
#34336
My mother and I occasionally have moments of failure to understand the other's sarcasm, probably because she grew up in South America while I grew up in the United States.
#34337
Sarcasm is annoying in my opinion. Whenever someone makes it, I wind up thinking they were serious, usually resulting in them getting angry at me, and when I try to make it, people think that I was serious, usually resulting in me getting angry.
#34339
This troper, due to his
cloudcuckoolander tendencies, usually misses the more subtle clues that indicate sarcasm, leading him to take most sarcastic comments at face value (assuming he even catches the comment in the first place). Needless to say, his friends are not pleased.
#34340
This troper suffers from the same exact problem, and is ridiculed and/or exploited by various family and friends due to her lack of a Sarcasm Radar.
#34341
Kind of a weird one, but I have a tendancy to use cynical sarcasm as my usual way of expressing distaste about something to people, but some people I know will misinterpret my sarcasm and as a serious statement and are sarcastic about it-in effect, they try to ''sarcasm sarcasm''. This get old very, very quickly.
#34342
This troper is going to make a blanket statement about Chinese people
after living and working in China, teaching English for nearly two years. (and speakers of other languages that distinguish vocabulary by tone) in general. They don't understand sarcasm at all. When asked about his girlfriend (technically nonexistant) he replied, "Oh, she's ''very'' ugly." They said "Why do you like her?" He said, "Well she has a good personality." And then said, "But seriously, she looks like a dog. I love going to see movies with her, because we both face the same direction ''and'' they turn out the lights." Their response?
"Huh."
#34343
To be fair, these kids are from the countryside, only use
censored chinese internet, and don't have a large ammount of exposure to western culture in general.
#34344
But they all know who Micheal Jackson and Justin Beiber are ''and'' can sing at least one song from the two artists despite a heavy reliance on stock Engrish phrases such as "The weather is changable", "Life is colorful", and "Good good study day day up" (to study material and benefit from a knowledge of it)
#34345
This Troper's little sister doesn't seem to realize when she's making some sarcastic commentary (usually against her).
#34346
This (older) troper considers it a sign of maturity if you can accomodate the people who fall under this trope without even the slightest little bit of snark or sarcasm and assumes all of the smug sarcastic people above who look down on {{The Spock}}s of the world whom this trope describes are of high school age or younger. Oh, and woe betide any "master of sarcasm" who comes across a professor with a sarcasm intolerance who operates in the manner this trope describes, who then decides to fire off sarcasm volleys in class. Unlike in high school, a professor is not paid to take it from anyone and will eviscerate you in front of class, to the point where you'll tuck your tail and run off like a whimpering puppy. OTOH, if you yourself suffer from this, don't worry about it at all. No one of importance will give you a hard time about your lack of understanding sarcasm. (nb: Not one iota of the above is sarcasm.)
#34347
My brother, by far. Sometimes I can't really tell whether he genuinely does not understand it or if he's just joking around.
#34348
This Troper is a natural DeadpanSnarker, and really hates it when people don't understand his sarcasm, due often it forces me to cross the line into Don't Explain The Joke. However, he also is so much of a DeadpanSnarker that sometimes I think people are being sarcastic while they are really being serious, so trope inverted with him.
#34349
This troper has learned that sarcasm is harder to detect over the internet, when you can't tell by the person's tone o voice if they are being sarcastic.
#34350
This troper's mother, to an unbelievibly
wallbanging extent.
#34351
This troper has a Chinese foreign exchange student for a roommate, who has on multiple occasions used common sarcastic slang, such as writing "''Great''. . ." when he actually means that something is good. It reached a new hilarious and disturbing high when he purchased a coffee mug that says, "Laugh at your own problems. . . ''everyone else does!''" without a shred of hint in his mind that it could be just a wee bit disconcerting (This is not to say that he cannot speak English, but rather that he misses English sarcasm). This runs into trouble, though, due to this troper being a DeadpanSnarker and TheGadfly. HilarityEnsues.
#34352
Then why did you put it there? Seriously.