TrueArtIsAngsty
#131735
A friend of mine is both an artist and very upbeat. I was very suprised when I found a bunch of angsty drawings in her notebook and I decided to ask her about them. She said that she doesn't really like them, but a real artist should draw at least one fallen angel a month to maintain his reputation.
#131736
This troper has written many a Notepad document Wingdings, and the majority of them are this. the others are tests to see if my dad has changed the font to something everyone can read. He does this when he wants to read things like read-mes and such, and quite often forgets to change it back.
#131737
This troper's writing tends to be much better at first when things aren't going so well and the story gets angsty.
#131738
This troper's high school holds an annual art contest called Reflections. The year that the theme was "On the outside, looking in" this troper believes she won the creative writing portion because her story was the only one that wasn't horribly angsty. She wrote a collection of fractured fairy tales ending in "The three blind mice. On the outside, feeling in."
#131739
This troper once had an English teacher who thought along these lines...it grew rather irritating.
#131740
Can relate. All those in favour of starting a support group for those who have had to put up with adamant (and I do mean ''adamant'') supporters of this trope?
#131741
We meet in the library at 7:30 on Mondays. Bring Twinkies and tapes of your favorite shows from your childhood. Hot chocolate will be provided.
#131742
When my English class got our yearly exams back, our teacher voiced her shock about how dark and depressing our creative writing portion was. One girl basically said TrueArtIsAngsty, just not in those words.
#131743
ThisTroper has a similar story. Our English teacher was disappointed that we (the top class) got reasonably low scores on our creative writing components because a good portion of the class wrote angsty teen love stories, and a slightly larger portion wrote something angsty in general. The person who actually got the highest mark for their creative writing component wrote TeamFortress2 Fanfiction. Troper is the one who got that highest mark.
#131744
MadeOfWin.
#131745
This troper is good at writing regardless of the tone, but keeps ending up falling into a dark pit of self-hate for some reason. My English teacher did admit that writing darker themed things are easier, but not necessarily better. I've written a song called "All art is depressing" which is a parody of the usual thought process.
#131746
Subverted -- if that's possible -- in a funny tale told by ThisTroper's art professor. He was a part of a class that had a "self-portrait" project, where the students tried to reveal something about themselves in a piece. They decided to play a game and tried to guess which project belonged to whose. The atmosphere turned serious when they discovered a disturbing piece composed of torn up, crumpled paper, and angry scrawls. Extremely concerned about whoever made this piece, everyone tried to encourage him or her to speak out. And then they realized it was just trash.
#131747
This troper isn't a great writer, but he is very good at finding ways to ruin his character's lives.
#131748
Subverted. This troper's english class once created a book of poetry that included pieces from all the students in the class. Most of the poems in the book were angsty, depressing, free-form poems about love and death. This troper's poem was about happy butterflies. This troper also noticed that poems that rhyme or have a or have a common structure are not as popular or "angsty" as poems that don't rhyme and have no real structure.
#131749
My writing is very much like this.
#131750
This trope is the sole reason I managed to get good grades in my (compulsory) secondary school art class. I will freely admit that my drawing skillss suck ass. The one time we could do a free topic piece I sketched a bunch of prisms and pyramids and drew a red ball in a corner with pastels. I called it "The Art of Being Lonely". I got a B+ and some very angry friends.
#131751
This Troper thinks, that all of her non-angsty stories are generally more poorly written than the angsty ones. I don't know if it's a subconcius thing produced by my cynical view of the world, but when comparing the two types it's clearly visible, that angsty stories have more fluent and 'beautiful' language and a better plot. Happy and sugar coated stories just aren't my cup of tea.
#131752
This Troper wonders if literature has been getting less angsty of late. It's not that there aren't plenty of tragic tales written today, it's just that a downer ending seems almost mandatory before the modern era, and a yet the vast majority of modern fiction (when things like TV and movies are included) has a happy ending.
#131753
I suffer from this BIG times. It's either this or CerberusSyndrome. Here's my story which....
#131754
Started as: A very idealistic story about group of people in a restaurant with lots and lots of FoodPorn, SceneryPorn, CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, and overall loaded with SweetDreamsFuel, and some of my friends described it as {{ARIA}} on restaurants. Also the characters were
#131755
The Chef: YamatoNadeshiko SupremeChef TeamMom who is very compassionate about her co-workers. Sort of like Alicia from {{ARIA}}.
#131756
The Co-Chef: Unofficial TeamDad while can a little snarky, overall nice guy who cares about everyone around him.
#131757
The Waitress: A GenkiGirl who basically radiates cheerfulness and frequently preaches about how today is the best day and people should "Enjoy Life!''.
#131758
Waitor 1: TheQuietOne but willing to give hand to anyone.
#131759
Waitor 2: FunnyForeigner who is basically the male version of the Waitress
#131760
Now:...a drama about people with issues. Those people mentioned above?
#131761
The Chef: StepfordSmiler who heavily suffers from guilt over her childhood friend into commiting suicide and suffers from HeroicBSOD after a massive BewareTheNiceOnes moment.
#131762
The Co-Chef: Shunned by and hates his family members because he think they are doing a lot better than him. Becomes more and more of a ControlFreak who easily provoked into ClusterFBomb and breakdown.
#131763
The Waitress: Plain insecure about her life and cannot genuinely commit to anything.
#131764
The Waitor 1: An aspiring singer who got his vocal chord broken during fight between his father. Drops out of high school and works in the restaurant, believing that nothing has any meaning whatsoever
#131765
The Waitor 2: An immigrant who worries about his siblings back in his poor country.
#131766
All these are sort of planned out though. Maybe I'm thinking of the other trope...
#131767
This troper has herself a comic idea, the basic thought process of which is "Okay, can we do that again, but with a lot more ruining of the character's life and sanity?" However, she has another one that is pretty much the exact opposite, so it all evens out...''Right?''
#131768
This Troper's 6th Grade class was studying poetry at the same time we were studying bees, thus we had to write poetry about bees. All of it was about starving to death, or being kicked out of the hive to freeze, or working yourself to the point of exhaustion, including a cinquain that simply began "Cold death."
#131769
My current English teacher is, for the most part, a lovely person. However, she has a ''bad'' case of this trope. When I said I had a major problem with the idea, her response was along the lines of "But if you're really intelligent enough to create TrueArt, then you'll see that the world is a terrible place. Weirdly enough, she's often expressed content with her life and a love of small, simple pleasures. Then the class got into a discussion on the difference between darkness (e.g. ''TheDarkKnight'') and ''bleakness'' (e.g. ''TheGreatGatsby''-- the horrible people get away with everything. There's nothing you can do, so you might as well just go home.)
#131770
This troper was criticised for not wanting to do "Angsty" RPs simply for several reasons: '''1)''' This trope has been forced on him ''SO'' much he's sick of hearing everyone whine bitch and moan about their problems and wind up worse off no matter what they do.. '''2)''' "Angsty" RP seems to be, at best, characters sitting around crying, bitching and moaning about their problems that'd make the Malcolm scream at them in annoyance to stop being so depressed. An RP where we just sit around in the room and whine about how bad our lives are. ''Riveting''. And at worst? Something that'd make me wonder why the hell people would ''want'' to do that to their characters. '''3)''' It always bugged me how many times I'd hear people cry "Wangst" under characters showing emotions other than anger, neutrality, and maybe happiness - Nobody likes an emo. I'd always hear people say to "Try to be like Pollyanna", whereas someone who ''is'' a Pollyanna winds up being called "Gay" (if they're male), "unrealistic" and "unsympathetic". Really? after ''all those'' complaints about wangsters....I'd think you'd ''WANT'' a freaking Pollyanna who doesn't have a negative bone in their body! '''4)''' Would you want to be around an "Angsty" character in real life? No - frankly everyone I know would smack that person upside the head and yell "STOP. WHINING. '''NOW'''." because they're too annoyed to see them as a Woobie. '''5)''' The whole "Mature people like Angsty stuff, DarkerAndEdgier is for ''adults'' and ''Grown-ups''! only ''kids'' like LighterAndSofter shit", and I find a lot of DarkerAndEdgier works seem to be praised on ''basis'' of being DarkerAndEdgier and not whether or not it has any depth. (I think that you could make a ''very'' deep work that's "G" rated and it'd be derided as "Kiddy garbage".) Don't get me wrong - I do not want "Eternally positive and idealistic" stuff since the opposite can be just as annoying - I just want people to tone down on this trope ''just a little''.
#131771
This troper's school anually hold a poetry contest, in which, somehow, only angsty poems ever get to the finale. So this troper parodied the trope by writing a hilarious poem about a clown that commits suicide... It got to the finale at least.
#131772
What one of my best friends and I think. Our stories usually have something to do with Star-Crossed Lovers, and mines tend to have emotionally unstable characters with family problems.
#131773
This troper is writing a story with some quite dark elements; this trope isn't what he's working towards, however. He's trying to invoke some DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, partly through the narrative style of the main character. One of the ultimate goals of the story is to get the main character to lose apathy, at least a little. Hopefully, he can suppress the angsty elements; whether the story can be seen as true art will be in the readers' hands.
#131774
This troper is a firm believer of this, as whenever I write a DarkerAndEdgier RP or story, I feel it is some of my best work. Though I do have some surprisingly decent stories that are generally light hearted, I tend to enjoy the darker, more depressing things more. I love putting my characters through the ringer, making them cry and generally hate themselves. It gets me crying too, and if I can make someone else feel for the character and cry too, then I feel I've done my job. Kind of in direct contrast to most of the people here, but that's just me.
#131775
This troper has a habit of writing stories like this- not that she actually wants to. She's trying to write happier endings to try and kick the habit, and is getting there slowly. Not that she'd want to stop writing angst completely, just stop making everything so depressing all the time.