This came up in a dnd game with two females in the party (they were female IRL too). The party had been seeking an audience with the baron of a region, which was ass-backwards even for the dnd setting, to get information on the MacGuffin, but were informed that they had to wear court-approved clothing, which wasn't that bad for the males, but the female ranger and fighter, being action girls absolutely hated the dresses, especially since they were nearly {{Stripperific}}. Things went downhill from there as it was heavily implied that the two were out of their element and that they should "let the men do the dangerous stuff." The encounter didn't end well, we walked away with no information, and the females were highly displeased with the DM (they got over it).

This was, rather unfortunately, a CatchPhrase that caught on at This Troper's High School during her time there. At every single pep rally, without fail, some prick or pricks in the audience would respond to at least one performance of the choir, cheerleaders, flag team or what have you by screaming "Now get in the kitchen and make me some dinner!", followed by roaring laughter. This directly led to this troper's decision not to date until well into college.

This female servicewoman once had a highly depressing conversation with her mother in which her mother "explained" that "natural law" mandates that men fight wars, and women stay, I dunno, in the kitchen or something. What's one part depressing and one part weird is that this troper's mother is a highly-educated businesswoman and landlady, so it's not like she's just some old-fashioned housewife who needs a clue.

I sympathize with you. My mother does the EXACT SAME THING!!! She double-majored in music and nursing in college,and was top of her class. She will comment on the sexist "feminine" values of her native country (Taiwan), tell me about being financially independent after marriage, and denounce both the Asian and American media for turning women into sex objects. However, when this tropette's father was abroad for business, her EXACT words were "Naomi,(fake name used)now that your dad is gone,we won't be able to function as well." I asked her why. She said "We're both girls." There have also been many instances where Mom has implied that only beautiful teenage women go missing, leading to ban on tank tops and hanging around with only male friends. WHAT THE FUCK, MOM!!!???

This female troper had a long discussion with several men on YouTube about female conscription to military services. Since we outnumber males in many a Western country, it would just be normal to have women be a part of the active contingent. The unanimous answer? '''Back to the kitchen and make me a sammich, that's the only thing you can actually do right!''' Not to mention the macho jokes about women's periods and similarly vulgar boorishness. But when you ask the question: Why must women be victims? None ever came with a proper answer. And about women in the army, it was more something around the lines of: "Women are impulsive, can't think straight (read: are stupider than men) and no one would ever obey a general with a vagina". Subtle, heh?

You make a good point, but it's probably an exercise in futility to try to wring anything resembling intelligent debate from a certain subset of You Tube posters.

Realistically, there isn't any reason for women to not be conscripted, but try convincing the military folks of that.

This troper once heard a Gunnery Sergeant say that the only reason women aren't allowed in most front-line units is due to cultural sensibilities, and that those will probably mostly go away in the next couple of generations. The commanding general of MCRD a couple of years ago was Brigadier General Salinas, and this troper is relatively certain that she has a vagina. You don't get to the 0-7 pay grade in the Marine Corps without earning it.

Update: She's Major General Salinas now (O-8), and director of Manpower Management Division, Manpower and Reserve Affairs, Headquarters Marine Corps. Only about 170 people in the US Armed forces (Over 3 million strong, currently) outrank her.

This Troper can't see why males need to be so chauvinistic about it (This troper is male, FYI). (Here on out, First Person) I feel that women should be given a fair chance to serve UNLESS they are shown to be physically unable to do so (My ex girlfriend wanted to join the army but was short enough to fit under my chin, and I'm not that tall either. She succeeded and has been accepted into the Infantry[GOOD LORD, OF ALL THINGS. Worse yet, she wanted ARTILLERY but they said she was too small]). I think the Rifle is like... more than half her height or something. And personally, I think that guys are more impulsive and can't think straight more often than girls (Except when having menstrual cramps). Cue joke on female leadership nuking a rogue state every month... In any case, I think its more of a cultural thing, and less of a physical ability thing that women get sidelined in the army.

Ughhhh. This is my personal BerserkButton. I once got into an argument about it with three lads in my class. It got so bad that they made me cry, ''and I don't feckin' do that.'' My teacher made it all better (go to the bottom, it's pretty obvious).

This troper wants to kill all of the new facebook pages e.g. "Why do woman need to learn how to drive? There's no road in the kitchen!" It's even worse if you look at the member's replies to those who call the group sexist.

This Troper would gladly join you in the killing spree, especially since those types of groups have led to the boys from her school repeating the jokes as often as they can.

This Troper now has the perfect comeback to shut up any kitchen-related {{Jerkass}}ery coming from men: "If you're so incompetent that you can't even make something as basic as a ''sandwich'' for yourself, then you're in no position to demand anything from a woman."

I agree with this, I hate these fucking jokes, not only because of the sexism, but because it gets really old after the millionth time. A reply I have is "You want women to stay in the kitchen? That's where the knives are!"

This troper (Tropers/FarisV) has had several unpleasant discussions with a few boys at her school regarding this topic. One boy, who was definitely a JerkJock tried using The Bible to argue that only the men are supposed to learn at schools, and that women should be silent. He then proceeded to say "So technically, you shouldn't even be here." This, coming from a boy who had some of the lowest grades in the class, said to This Troper, who is currently in the top ten of her class. In what This Troper considers a CMoA for her, she turned around and said, "Oh of course. How silly of me to think that I actually had my own brain, and honestly believe myself superior to an amazing specimen like yourself, who is little more than an over-developed caveman." Problem solved, and I never had any other issues like that again from that particular boy.

This troper gets this at times due to her hobbies and due to being a GamerGirl. It doesn't help that she's transgender and doesn't even identify as completely female.

Every time I hear a guy make stupid jokes about this ("I don't let my girl[friend] have a phone.. there's a clock on the stove in the kitchen, where she belongs, and talking to people will distract her from making me my food!"), even though they're obviously joking around, it makes me want to stab someone.

I've never really had a problem with this trope as long as it's referred to jokingly. Some of the jokes are rather witty for their limited intellectual range, and it's always fun to step out of snark territory for a moment to laugh at something stupid and childish. What gets me, though, as a man and an equal-opportinuty offender, is that nobody has any good men jokes. I've tried coming up with a few, maybe some about dick size or premature ejctualion, but writing simple, tasteless barroom jokes isn't my strong point. Can any of you sistas help a troper out with this? I want to piss of EVERYBODY, not just women. Toss me a good man joke or two to tell my redneck neo-nazi cousin sometime when he's drunk.

Not a female, but... why do they say that men think with their dicks? Because every time they try to do something, they fuck it up.

Courtesy of George Carlin: "Do you know my men go to war? Because they are sensitive about the size of their dicks and are trying to compensate for it. That is why bullets, missiles and half of military equipment are dong shaped, it's called FUCKING WITH PEOPLE!" Does that work? FYI I'm a dude.

If you can think of an effective ''non'' penis shaped weapon I would like to hear of it.

Not the troper asked, but throwing stars?

Fire?

My grandfather seemed to believe something like this. He talked to my younger brother for ages about all the different career options he could take, many of them including businesses and such. And then his version of the career choice to me? "...You could be a nurse or a hairdresser?" Bah.

Is this (very much male, thank you) editor the only one who encounters ''inverse'' of this trope? As in girls saying they can't do this, that or something else "'cause they're girls, duh" like that excuses them from even ''trying''?

This is actually the kind of woman that needs to be conscribed.

Sadly, this troper ''has'' encountered women like this. Many of whom are conservative Christians who claim, "but it's our ''place'' to stay in the kitchen!" Being Christian herself, this has become something of a personal BerserkButton for her.

My mom is the kind of woman who is stuck in the past and thinks its a womans place to be in the kitchen or looking after the babies. Im not like that though, I cant cook, dont want to get married and am in college.

Is it weird that as a woman, I'm more offended as someone with a sense of humor instead of as a woman? I mean seriously, kitchen jokes are just so unoriginal. How about something more clever and, you know, funny?

Amen to that. After seeing a billion "lol stay in the kitchen and make me sammich woman" jokes, they start getting a bit tired.

How exactly is an anime game (or game of an anime, however you want to put it) a trope namer for an old sexist comment that existed far before the game was released? That makes no sense at all. In reference to the topic though, i work for a company where the only "hint" of this is management not wanting to put a young female on weekend nights. Which is entirely justifable as they need both someone who can carry a form of "intimidation" (An older "bossy" woman can fit this still) and a young female would be hit on all night also. So i don't really experience any of this actual sexism anywhere.

This troper had an instance in theology class in which the subject came up about why Adam was created first, and Eve second. One student guessed that Adam was greater than Eve because of this, to which I replied; "Actually, it makes sense, the way God created things. First He made inanimate objects, then the plants, then the animals, then Adam, and then Eve! Don't you see how brilliant that is?" Needless to say, it was a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for me.

This male trooper uses this at times, but ''only when I know the person is cool with it and it's funny''. The absolute best time is this: ->'''Me'''*Holdes up hand like he's holding a sandwich*:"What's the problem with this picture?" ->'''Girl''':"Uh..." ->'''Me''':"I don't have a sammich! Now go back to the kitchen, ''and make me a goddamn sammich!''" What made it hilarious is that she had no idea what I meant.

The {{jerk with a heart of gold}} in this troper's {{Nakama}} actually punched a guy for saying this to her (me, not the friend). He was only joking, but still, I get so tired of hearing this nonsense and if any guy I end up with ever tries to make me stay in the kitchen, his behind will be on the curb. Honestly, it's a good thing she hit him and I didn't because I would've kicked him where it ''really'' hurts...

Yeah, but in your friend doing this out of a response to a sexist joke, she just reinforced a much more serious sexist issue. Not much better but hey, it could just be my ValuesDissonance to the use of violence.

I know and I realized this later and felt bad. It's just that this trope is my BerserkButton. I can't tell you how many times I've been told I have to cook because I'm a girl and other variations. That boy actually bothered me everyday (he's left me alone since she did that) and on that particular day, I was tired, irritable and he just set me off. My friend didn't punch him immediately. Only after I repeatedly asked him to leave me alone and she saw I was about to kick him once he said this.

TheTroper once got into a FlameWar on YouTube (yes, in hindsight it was stupid) because I responded to someone making a stupid joke about his his Japanese wife stayed in the kitchen on a video about a horrible serial gang rape story in Japan ( the story with the infamous And Thats Okay!from the politician). I raged.This person responded by commenting on every single video that I commented on, leaving comments on my page, sending PMs, etc. He claimed I was picking on him because he was black and he had a disability...? It was bizarre.

Me and my brother enjoy these jokes, but it's a BerserkButton for anybody, especially females, who honestly believe it. One time this exchanged happened while I was moving around boxes: ->'''Me'''"Here I am doing all this heavy lifting, and you are just standing there, grab a friggin' box!" ->'''Girl Cousin''':"But I am a girl, you're the man so you should be the one doing all the work." ->'''Me''':"...Wow, good to see the great advancements in the feminists movement at work."