EvenEvilHasStandards
#38303
Though
This Troper calls himself a troll, he usually only targets
small name big egos. He also doesn't bash people based on looks unless they have already done the same to someone else.
#38304
This Troper played in a
Vampire: The {{Masquerade}} game. His character sheet included his motto: "Just because you are an undead fiend who stalks the night to drink the blood of the living is no reason to be a sick fuck about it." Unfortunately, he was in the Sabbat sect, whose motto was "Oh yes it is!"
#38305
While discussing a Dungeons & Dragons I was told that my version of evil was too blood thirsty.
#38306
This troper often plays NeutralEvil characters, often for class-restriction reasons, even in good campaigns. He enjoys playing "people who do good things for bad reasons" more than plain heroes.
#38307
Once while playing City of Villains I quit a team after reading the backstory on one of the characters. Even an inhumane evil robot who destroyed an entire lab of people because he was bored wouldn't do THAT.
#38308
Fairly common among
CoV players who see their characters as more like rebellious
Ubermensch who don't believe in "Great Responsibility" but don't want to be total monsters either.
#38309
"Evil has standards" is why all my subsequent villains deliberately skip Westin Phipps after the first time I played through his missions.
#38310
"I'm a predator. I never said anything about cold-blooded." is the frequent excuse of a character with a fondness for children (in the usual non-lethal sense) and a surprisingly sentimental streak for being one evolutionary generation removed from a solo predatory large cat, in
This Troper's Rifts game.
#38311
"I may advocate taking the safety labels off everything to ensure more stupid people die and the shooting of anyone who can't handle basic arithmetic and literacy, but I'm no
-ing racist."
#38312
This ''Matrix Online''-playing Troper's characters tend to wind up joining the Merovingian's organization, since it's the closest thing to Chaotic Neutral in the Matrix-verse; her main is pretty close to the moral end of the bell-curve morality. The problem is, a lot of immature players seem to think "Mervs=TEH EVOL!!!111" and play evil LargeHams; this Troper Lampshades her situation by referring to her main as "Not your typical Merv".
#38313
Similar to the City of Villains example above, she and her faction refused to let a guy join them because his character's backstory was that he was a former Machine program who was slated for deletion because he got bored and electrocuted a bunch of Bluepills.
#38314
She's also seen a signature on the ''KingdomOfLoathing'' forums that read something like "Heart-core player: Because being the best doesn't mean jack if you're an asshole about it." and has since taken this as her roleplaying motto.
#38315
I am currently playing the TokenEvilTeammate in one of my current campaigns. A Sadistic GeneralRipper against the Snake-people who killed my family. Still it came as something of a shock to my commanding officer when I refused payment killing the badguys. I mean Evil is Greedy, isn't it? (No, I'm just happy to serve the righous cause of genocide against our scaly enemies).
#38316
This Troper once set up a prank involving a sprinkler dousing everyone at a party, but it was designed to make sure that the food wasn't soaked. I mean, spraying people is one thing, but ruining snacks?!
#38317
I mentioned by the heartwarming moments, some years ago I was harassed and beaten up by bullies in school, unable to defend myself. That guy, who was a bully himself but not regularly to me, stepped in and punched the leader out while "showing" me how to defend myself".
#38318
This troper had a dream that he was about to be assassinated (in the 1930's for some reason), yet when the assassin saw I was cleaning my room he post-poned the deed, and then even helped me clean up. The dream had a NoEnding so I can't be sure of the outcome.
#38319
Another of personal relevance to a particular Troper, there was a child molester that had targeted several little girls, including this troper's younger sister (though he did not succeed in that regard). This troper's father found out about it and issued some fairly grisly (and deadly serious) threats to the molester, his 'manhood', and his life. The molester decided to go into hiding, so the father
went about to all the worst parts of town, and spread the truth about the molester to all the drug dealers, gangsters, and prostitutes he could find. The father was even accosted by a gang leader on the street at one point, because the gang leader wanted a better description of the molester, stating that they didn't put up with that sort of thing. The molester, after being on the run from the underworld of an entire city, turned himself into police.
#38320
Dude, your father is -ing awesome!
#38321
Somebody give that man a medal.
#38322
MadeOfWin, full stop.
#38323
In response to the above troper and the old RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil trope: I don't particularly have anything against your father doing whatever he could to put that creep away, but where this tropers standards come into play is when it comes to murderers who condemn rapists. I do some pretty questionable things, but I never do anything that can't be fixed in five minutes, this includes hurting others. I'm not going to contest which of the two are worst, but I will not stand for one condemning the other, and most of the time this is murderer to rapist. Who the hell do they think they are to think they are better than anyone. Yes, rape is a traumatic experience for victims, but murder devastates anyone and everyone close to the victim (that's not to say family and friends of rape victims aren't affected, but they at least still have that person). Murderers are scum, worthless pieces of shit that the world is better off without and just do not deserve a second chance. I've seen people's lives ruined forever because of them, futures robbed, and innocence lost. For them to think that they have some moral high-ground is laughable, what the fuck do they think people feel like while they are dying, how do they think those loved ones feel when they lost someone important to them, that's someone's mother/father/best friend/lover/etc.. So kudos to the above tropers' old man for being able to associate with them, I would never be able to. (I'm referring to the gangsters in particular, who may not have killed someone at that point, but still joined a group of people known for well... killing).
#38324
Wow... Buzz kill much?
#38325
Well, if you kill a rapist, no one's going to miss him. Rapists deserved even more than murder, they need to know how it's like to be raped. You poor, naive, person. Rape is something worse than death, and they'll die anyway, but scarred forever, murderers just make them dead faster. So, go get raped, and see if you would have rather died or raped and die later. Filthy bitch.
#38326
This troper. Replace evil with "limited spectrum of emotional responses" and a good dose of wholly serious ComedicSociopathy. And he finds the concept of how Witch Girls Adventures is "supposed" to be played to be highly disturbing.
#38327
This troper will never forget asking her psychology teacher (who worked with prisons occasionally) if the 'child molesters are the bottom of the pecking order' thing was true, and being told that a lot of the time they didn't bother putting offenders through treatment until after the first year because it was so likely they'd end up murdered during that time it would be a waste of time and money.
#38328
This troper was playing with her brother in the woods one day when some older boys, whom Troper recognized as the school bullies, showed up. After the three bullies spent some time verbally abusing Troper and her brother, shoving them around, and generally being asses, one of the three produced a slingshot, loaded it, and aimed at her brother's head. The other two immediately stopped him, saying that was just going ''too far.'' She also heard one of them say "Dude, just let 'em go, man, no need to do ''that!''"
#38329
{{Night}}, while gleefully espousing a thoroughly amoral stance in EVEOnline, rarely practices this against the general population of the game in highsec despite the opportunities for it. Part of it is PayEvilUntoEvil, but when you factor in the fact that pretty much every character in the game is a hideous mass-murdering monster by any normal moral standards most of it is this trope.
#38330
This is more along the lines of Even PerverseSexualLust Has Standards. This Troper is shameless is when it comes to the celebrities he finds hot or sexy and pleads guilty to 3 or 4 cases of JailbaitWait. He does however draw the line at the intrusiveness of paparazzi, and won't even think twice about refusing the temptation to look at any sleazy photos or videos that invades privacy.
#38331
This troper was once talking to his father about Rod Blagojevich (former governor of Illinois) being arrested on corruption charges, and about how he had tried to get funding for a children's hospital pulled: #QUOTE#Dad: Well, in Chicago politics, corruption is one thing, but bringing children into it was just... #QUOTE#This Troper: {{Even Evil Has Standards}}? #QUOTE#Dad: Exactly.
#38332
Not really evil, but this troper knew a friend who was teased in High school. However, when the bully found out that a girl (who was Muslim) was being teased for having her hair covered, she promptly told a teacher.
#38333
The rest of my team in D&D. They may have a point as my character has gleefully burnt down a village and plucked her own eye out.
#38334
In a {{Pokemon}} roleplay this troper is in, this troper's characters
:They're a two-{{Mon}} team of assassins,who would kill pretty much anyone and the Runa would stab anyone in the back if it was beneficial to her were discussing how to defeat the current villain with a character who used to know the villain. He described the villain as "evil". The following conversation took place: ->"Ooh, I haven't heard that one before,"
Runa replied sarcastically. "Kid, the universe isn't
black and white. Nobody is 'just evil'." ->
"Okay he's arrogant and evil" ->Runa rolled her eyes. "Well, why is he 'evil'?" ->"Maybe the fact that he's a heartless killer?" ->"He kills people for fun?" Runa clenched her fists,
and some of the rubble began to float. ->"Runa,"
Tabeo said worriedly. ->"Pretty much" ->Large chunks of rubble were lifted into the air, and began to crumble. ->Tabeo placed a hand on Runa's shoulder. "Runa, calm down. Please." ->Runa became
eerily calm, and the rubble fell to the ground. "Let's find this bastard. He won't know what hit him."
#38335
When a NeutralEvil asassin thinks you're a CompleteMonster, you better run like hell.
#38336
Probably doesn't count because it was only when playing BioShock, but this troper took a horrible glee in slaughtering all manner of Splicers, even saying stuff like
"I am the angel of death, come to slaughter you heathen sinners" and laughing it up like a CardCarryingVillain from Mordor (especially those
snob-tastic splicers who used to be upper-class types judging from their pompous voices served with numerous tasty ham-and-cheese sandwiches - but, when cornering that very first
Little Sister in the game, feeling it was pathetically sad it seemed she was cowering in fear, just could not bring himself to press the key to harvest - he instead rescued her, and is getting through the rest of the game rescuing the Little Sisters
because harvesting them would have made him feel as if he had crossed a certain line - besides, despite him taking a sadistic glee in
killing Splicers with Incinerate, he felt that harvesting the Little Sisters would catapult him (at least when playing that or any other game) from AffablyEvil with a twist of AxCrazy right over the MoralEventHorizon and end up right in CompleteMonster territory...this coming from a gamer who
gleefully helped Tenpenny destroy Megaton by detonating its eponymous nuclear weapon in Fallout3, not to mention likely breaking the
breaking the Geneva Convention repeatedly in CommandAndConquer with all that stealing enemy factories and
attacking them with their own types of units and
resorting to far worse. So this troper supposes if he went to a nightclub full of Splicers and they would say, "
if you're such a rampaging murderous bastard here in Rapture, why don't you harvest that Little Sister over there" he would be caught out
and would hope there's that vita-chamber in the background with his name on it...
#38337
A RealLife example: Though this troper will listen (
and enjoy) some very dark music in terms of lyrical content (some of it having lyrical content even he considers to be evil-sounding, despite him dressing very straitlaced and being at heart a
very gentle soul who adores his family and his pet dog) and ambience, Aggrotech and many extreme forms of metal, if this troper ever finds a music store stocking
music from Resistance Records he would discreetly give a tip-off to the police - same if he was working in a music store and someone ordered similar hateful music as from that. Furthermore this troper goes out of his way to avoid that stuff on Youtube. One must draw the line somewhere.
#38338
An OriginalFiction example: In an AfterTheEnd setting where an alternate Earth has withstood a massive tempest of impacting meteors in random locations inspired by {{Fallout}}, {{Stormrise}}, and 1980s more optimistic visions of a circa 2010s-2050s universe gone wrong (due to the aforementioned variant ColonyDrop using lots of smaller asteroids rather than one big asteroid), two major factions emerge in a
War of Assassins type conflict scattered across the globe, the democratic Refounding led by Harvard professor types who were in the state of Vermont on leave
when it happened, which escaped much of the devastation, and the Presidium, a mysterious council of military-industrial types organised originally by a New Zealand-born expatriate who was stranded in England AfterTheEnd who go PuttingOnTheReich (except in an Italian Fascist manner rather than Third Reich, with uniforms similar to a merging of the CCNN and Kempeitai uniforms) who operate out of what's left of the English city of Leeds. The Presidium are the bad guys and are out to TakeOverTheWorld, however when they encountered cells of ''real'' neo-Nazi types in the German theatre, the Presidium convinced them to surrender any Jewish, Roma or similar hated-by-Nazis groups over to the Presidium,
under the pretense that the Presidium would do the killing for the neo-Nazis -
but instead repatriating them as valued citizens and sending them to Presidium territories in Britain or mainland Europe, with Bucharest being a main hub for Presidium activity in mainland Europe (sending them from there to Greece, and then to England from out of the Meditteranean Sea, secrecy being the name of the game). At least the Presidium are EqualOpportunityEvil, they just
put on the fascist uniforms to frighten their enemies, their ideology, though poorly-defined, is fairly centrist, but leaning toward the left in social issues, though both factions are NGOSuperpower types since the post-meteor world has little in the way of central authority...
#38340
This troper finds it interesting how many people on this page only specify
"cute" animals.
#38341
This rather cynical troper would just like to say that he finds the RealLife section of the main article to be one huge CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming for the human species. (Well, not the section itself, but the people and events it refers to. Shut up, I know what I meant.) Seriously, mankind, you're sometimes kinda alright.
#38342
A somewhat strange and inconsistent example is this Troper's friend. She can be quite obnoxious at times and tops my list of "friends most likely to take over the world", but she is also the one most likely to have DudeNotFunny moments when someone goes too far about certain topics.
#38343
I didn't see this under Web Original, but Spike of Spike's Root Beer Reviews had this to say among other negative comments made about
Journey sassafras root beer: "This liquid is so bad, even the Bev Net lap dogs didn't review it." While the worst sin Bev Net might posess is greed if this comment is anything to go by, it really says a lot if a company apparently infamous for shilling out positive reviews for bad drinks refuses to dignify a brand with even a negative review.
#38344
A roleplaying chat that I go on has a whole chain of who gets to pull this card on whom.
Revondos Mykhondo, for example, has intervened to
save TheLancer from
Majora, and even
Chris Hansen has showed things he wouldn't do even to catch a predator.
#38345
When playing an evil character in {{Fallout 3}} or FalloutNewVegas, I will usually kill anyone if they have something I want- but I will NEVER kill a shopkeeper or merchant. After all, who else am I going to sell all the stuff I don't want to? I will steal from them though.
#38346
I played a succubus in a D&D game once. Obviously very evil, would kill and steal for fun and profit... but due to personal reasons, absolutely abhored slavery. Hilariously, even though I made this trait clear several times, our GM kept forgetting about it, until our band of ne'er-do-wells crossed path with a band of slavers, with the GM obviously assuming we'd work together and reap great wealth from potential slave trade. Cue rest of the party following my lead as we wiped them all out to the last man, took their stuff and freed all their slaves. GM did not expect that.
#38347
This troper does roleplays and writes stories, while also playing games. In roleplays, he enjoys being the TokenEvilTeammate if on a heroic team (but makes sure to draw the line at
rape, the harming of kids and the robbing of refugees- at the very least you keep them in good conditions if smuggling them) or the TokenGoodTeammate if on a team of assholes, often calling one out and shooting a couple of his own team before getting offed by them if they try something too harsh. In stories he has at least one guy draw the line at ridiculous and unneeded torture. And when playing Fable II I try villains who may go around killing villages
for hating my dress sense, but touch my dog and you are DEAD.
#38348
This troper created a character who grew up a bad kid, stealing things from classmates, and as a young adult can appear to genuinely love women, despite really having no feelings for them beyond manipulating feelings. Sounds like he's planning to take advantage of them, right? Wrong. For a person not above using deception to appear genuinely nice, playing sadistic mind games with his victims and killing innocent (and random) people without a second thought, he absolutely ''despises'' rape. Mention it? You'll catch a threatening glance from him. Joke about it? If he's in the same room as you, get out of wherever you are, fast. Caught by him attempting it? By the time he's killed you, don't be surprised if he does so by ''plunging his switchblade through your neck''. Just so you know, normally he kills people by shooting them or giving them a stab to the back. RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, indeed, since it brings out the absolute worst.