This Tropers older brother defaults to this method whenever he realizes he just can't win with word play (And I raise my voice another octave) I remember clearly that he once tried to punch me, because I shouted at him when he attempted to set me on fire with a pair of lighters. Earlier in the year he left me with a half a head swollen, we live in the same house and I haven't said a word to him since. Crazy Fool. In a Subversion it never works, because everyone knows he was in the wrong.

Have your parents considered getting him some professional help? He sounds ''dangerous''.

Pyromania + violence + manipulative behavior? He sounds like a ''sociopath''.

Pyromania + violence and manipulative behavior sounds like almost every troper, myself included.

This troper is in French class at her high school, and the teacher has a guitar in there, which he lets the students play before the late bell for the class rings. One day, though, she was playing guitar and got too caught up in a song to realize the bell had already rung. In order to get her to stop, the teacher started poking at her in the eye. When she put down the guitar and asked why he poked her in the eye, he told her effectively "My finger wasn't poking your eye, your ''eye'' was poking my ''finger''. Why are you making your eye poke my finger?"

This troper likes to counterattack with something like, "Because I wanted to know just how much I can manipulate you." It's worked every time -- they stopped doing it or, at least, stalled and scratched their head in bewilderment, which is fun to watch.

This troper's father tried to pull this one on her. Subverted in that she retaliated by faking a panic attack, complete with rocking back and forth on the floor, hysterical crying and incoherent begging. It worked. Her acting was so convicing she effectively made sure that he wouldn't use that technique ever again.

Oh, gods, I wish that kind of thing worked for me. Doing that seems to be what the person I'm citing is ''going'' for.

This troper reluctantly admits that she made use of this when having to line up behind her sister, or was behind her sister for some reason. She'd take a small amount of said sister's hair in her hand, holding it but not pulling it, so that when the sister moved away the hair got pulled.

This troper has used this line, generally while his arm is being held by someone else and has just been made to hit someone. He wasn't paying attention to the conversation and was genuinely curious.

This troper has this one in his trick bag and uses it to remind people that my services are never for sale---only for rent, and I reserve the right to change the terms if I feel I'm being taken for granted. One very nice perk of being a sociopath and borderline autistic is that it is impossible to use social forms of manipulation---you always need me more than I need you.

{{Kaywinnet}}'s parents did a variation of this a couple of months ago. She was angry at them for yelling at her over nothing again (she'd put some music on, distracting her mother from the TV) and she wanted to calm down before emptying the dishwasher like she'd been told, so she went into her room. Her father followed her in, hit her, dragged her out towards the kitchen, and half-threw her across the room. He and her mother then proceeded to yell at her for the next twenty minutes or so. Whenever she raised the matter of what her father had just done, they righteously justified it by saying he hadn't hit me that hard ("...No bones are broken. Right?") and he ''had'' to do it, to get me to empty the dishwasher. Later that night, my mother said that the mistake they've made as parents is being too nice to me. A real KickTheDog night, for both of them.

Now they've done a variation - Why Did You Make Your Brother Hit You. He gets off scot free, because "he can't control his temper," while I get a lecture for annoying him in the first place and thus causing him to hit me.

If nights like that are common, I'd say you're being abused.

Agreed, Kay, I'd say revenge is the best option. Beat the living shit out of them until you break them and they are begging for mercy. Whips work well, as do kicks and fists and "sterilization with a heavy object" works well on men.

Illegal, and it's a valid question whether she can physically overpower them. Report this to the authorities. It's fairly clear-cut abuse.

This troper has younger twin siblings that will freak out at almost every other thing I do. I walk up to them with wet hands after washing them? Try and punch me. I grab one thing of theirs, perhaps an RC car? Try and punch me. I harmlessly tap an RC Blimp he has? Tries to punch me. Considering how this troper is 6'4, 240 pounds, and This troper's brothers are about 5'5 and a minor 180, I have no idea why they do this.

BullyingADragon. Hit back, they'll stop.

This teenage troper's mom reacts this way often when she hits her much to this tropers confusion. It's just a few hits, never more then fifteen or so spread over however long this troper refuses to give in. Then again she does use a ''belt'' most of the time.

Where are you...cause if you're in the US, that's illegal.

Agreed. I'll suggest much the same thing I did for Kay, but instead beat your mother with a belt until she gives in. Also, perhaps put a finger through her eye.

Once again, I'd instead suggest reporting it to the authorities.

Subverted in that This Troper's mother does not hit her. Played straight in that their "arguments" usually consist of her mother informing her on how she's a horrible person, selfish and unreliable, and that this is all her father's fault, for five to twenty minutes, going on when said Troper starts sobbing and compulsively apologizing (thus arguably Exaggerated as well), and then telling her that she wishes Troper didn't make her have to do this and that if only the Troper could be better--, also that now the Troper's going to have to clean up so she doesn't embarrass her mother and why did she have to do this to herself. Fun, huh?

... You might want to talk to someone about that. Emotional abuse is still abuse.

Used literally in that she has a friend who's fond of grabbing her hands and hitting her with them, or vice versa. "Why are you hitting yourself?" is usually replied to with "Why are you making me hit you, then?" when one of them can't get the other's hand at the right angle.

My parents used this on me to try to justify their actions and make themselves feel better when I used to live with them. I guess it worked so well that the cops believed them too.

This does not work on me. I lose it before they can ask, and hit right back. #QUOTE#Why did you... #QUOTE#KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #QUOTE#O_O

My mom uses this on me every single time. Sometimes she changes it up with something along the lines of "You had it coming."

On the (''extremely'') rare occasions This Tropette's mom has hit her, she's always felt like it was her fault. And I always begged for forgiveness, mainly out of fear. I'm still scared today, even though the only times my mom has it me, she was on some new meds (which she stopped taking immediately). Still, there's always that lurking chance...