Comment: Read the Useful Notes page on The Golden Rule. Works with masochism the same way as with mainstream sexuality: Doing it to someone who want it is ok, doing it against someone's will is sexual abuse.

and while people being mean does mean that they should be punished, you yourself would have to balance between "punishment for the wicked" and "treat others well". many proponents of the golden rule would say that by taking revenge, you are no better than him.

And your point would appear to be that you do not in fact believe in sin and repentance or that homosexuals stand in danger of everlasting punishment -- not that your interpretation of the GR is right and the fundy's is wrong. (He may be factually mistaken about the homos and the fornicators. That's another matter entirely.)

This tropers non-friend is a aversion of this trope. He treats everybody like crap and he expects star treatment and everything to go his way every time for all of eternity...haha loser! Treat people how you would not like to be treated is the aesop of his existance#...

This troper is actually an aversion of ''that'' aversion - I treat everyone politely and in turn, are treated like an obstacle or a third-class citizen.

#OP Note: #So we just ignore him and he gets neither treatment, not treated like crap and not treated like the star he thinks he is. He basically doesn't exist for all of us.

This troper thinks this rule is bullshit - because from his experience, nobody else observes this rule. I treat others politely, I apologize and ask for forgiveness like you should but currently, only ''five'' people actually have apologized when they needed to. Everyone else has had to have been told to by an adult or threatened with punishment if they didn't. I treat people with respect and in return, are treated like garbage. I listen to people and try to talk back but in return am ignored. I show people empathy and in turn never get shown it myself, I'm always told "Stop whining", "Shut up", "Calm down you baby" or "omg you're mad over this?". I leave people alone when tehy want to be left alone and are in turn ''ENDLESSLY'' harassed when I tell them to leave me alone. (Even when there is a '''BIG. BOLD. SIGN''' on the door that says "Do not disturb", it apparently means "go in here and endlessly harass me about questions you know the answer to.") Bottom line? TheGoldenRule is BlatantLies.

No, it isn't blatant lies... in my perspective (i won't say for fear it'll bring problems to this page(you guess what perspective)) we are told to serve, help, try to live in peace and live in fairness with others without expecting anything or much back. "Do unto have others as you would HAVE them do unto you" is actually "do unto others as you would WISH they do unto you"... There is not much to expect back. This troper sees how you feel though.

It '''IS''' BlatantLies. When you're treated like shit and treat them nicely in return, what happens? They continue to treat you like shit and take advantage of you being kind while they continue to get off treating you like shit. KarmaHoudini is an AwfulTruth.

It's not. TheGoldenRule says nothing about results, or anything that can be defined truth or lie. TheGoldenRule does not say anyone you treat nicely will suddenly have an epiphany that orders them to treat you nicely. It simply tells you to act however you want others to act, whether they act like that or not. In short, you'd be the ultimate human if you could stop complaining about this injustice you perceive. We can't all be treated well, and NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished. ''That'', dear friend, is the AwfulTruth. - SummerGlau

This tropers family ''constantly'' ignores him, pretends he's not there, and interrupts him and forces him to practically ''shout'' and wave his hands to get their attention. I decided to give them a taste of their own medicine and treated them the same way. So? ''You'' ignore me all the time and pretend I don't exist - By the logic of TheGoldenRule, you ''want'' other people to ignore you and pretend you aren't there and go out of their ways to interrupt you. Immediately the common Parentism mentality stepped right on in - I'm ''still'' waiting for an explanation for why it is "okay" for them to ignore ''me'', but not okay for ''me'' to do the same to them, especially if I'm to treat others the way I want to be treated, or treat others the same way.