StopHelpingMe
#119781
GMail. They keep ''changing'' it, adding stuff to try and make "friendlier" at the expense of poor compatibility and performance on older computers (not to mention un-subtly cross-promoting their other services,) and the ''only'' way you can get it to piss off and go back to something simple is to force it into the basic HTML view, which disables a number of the ''nice'' features (text formatting and asynchronous attachment upload, for example.) Why can't I just get it back the way it ''used'' to be!? It's enough to make me seriously consider switching back to a dedicated mail client.
#119783
This troper's dad provoked precisely this reaction when she first got her learner's permit; his reactions to her mistakes only served to make her even more frazzled, especially since she generally didn't need to be told where she screwed up.
#119784
Ditto. He made me very nervous... It was better with my Mom though.
#119785
This Troper's daughter always wants to be helpful. The trouble is, she's only four and her idea of 'helping' is very much like my idea of "getting in the damn way".
#119786
Sounds like your average 4-year old kid to me.
#119787
One of the side-effects of my particular strain of bipolar disorder is an abject refusal to ask for help unless it's INCREDIBLY necessary and it almost kept me from being diagnosed in the first place. It's made for some really weird and painful situations.
#119788
Sounds a bit like this troper, who has cyclothymia.
#119789
Played tragically straight, almost to the point of Deconstruction with someone This Troper knew in school (3rd person out). Knowing him, he was obviously developmentally typical, but for some reason his family signed papers saying that he was autistic. His whole life, the school system treated him as such, placing him in the special-ed department despite his near-constant pleas for a normal education. His peers couldn't see anything wrong with him, but made fun of him all the same just because of his placement. Combined with overbearing parents and despite his resentment of the special treatment, he never learned to take care of himself. The tragic part comes in when you learned that he was actually quite brilliant, if a bit sheltered and unsocialized. At eighteen, he unofficially quit school and left home, claiming that he didn't care what happened to him as long as he could take responsibility for his actions. No one has seen him since.
#119790
Holy crap, are you someone I know from the (possible, nearby) future?
#119791
This Troper occasionally has friends being "backseat gamers" when she's playing video games. One certain friend doesn't wait for her to get stumped before "offering" clues. This started in ''Ocarina of Time'', so this troper
started the catchphrase "Shut up, Navi!" As that "helpful" friend forcibly gives advice outside of video games, this phrase is still used a lot.
#119792
This editor has one such backseat gamer for a sister. His experiences playing ''Bioshock'' with her forcible advice led him to put the TruthInTelevision examples in the main StopHelpingMe page.
#119793
This troper is a recovering backseat gamer, especially with a certain one of his friends. He is trying to channel this into something more useful (i.e. looking up the solution to in-game puzzles on GameFAQs and only giving hints if the puzzle his friend is stuck on is obviously stupid and/or the friend has missed some vital clue.
#119794
My mother once threatened to ''ground me'' for not following her advice to explore an area in Spyro, and later when I thought that there might be a secret in an obvious location in VideoGame/PaperMario where there was one, she chose to ignore it. Also, my brother was sure to do his best to suck out all of the fun in the beta testing of FinalFantasyXI, including asking me, "what the hell is wrong with you?" when I got mad at him for telling me to equip a sword when I ''was''.
#119795
Averted for me. I'm a wuss, and hate fighting monsters, while my brother has no mind for strategy. So I watch him and verbally solve the puzzles for him, and he fights monsters. The weirdest part is that I almost always end up fighting the boss monsters, because he can't figure them out. The mind boggles....
#119796
This troper has a friend with a habit of giving extremely bad advice for games in a way that makes him sound like he knows what he's talking about. For example, saying 'turn right' when this troper was playing GTA and driving along the edge of the sea. Turn, splash, dead.
#119797
This troper has a bad habit of memorising the entire script of every last play, skit, and presentation she ever puts on, even those when she has literally about 30 hours with a solid copy. The friend she usually does team presentations with has a bad habit of...not. This means lots of whispered prompts, which generally make it worse, especially in German class. (No, you're meant to say "wir alles gehe ins Kino am SAMSTAG", not Deinstag!)
#119798
Could it be that you're actually meant to say "Wir gehen alle in's Kino am Samstag"?
#119800
This troper, when she plays WorldOfWarcraft, always gets annoyed when healing DPS (such as a shadow priest, a paladin, or a druid) stops doing damage and heals themselves. She has actually said "stop helping me."
#119801
This troper knows a family that seems to do this genetically. Both the eldest son and his two younger brothers have an annoying tendency to explain simple aspects of new games that this troper is trying out, even if he performed the moves that the kids are painstakingly explaining to him, repeatedly, in front of them. The eldest son also tends to repeat himself, usually saying "Yeah, you can ____" when he explained how to do "____" five minutes ago. It doesn't help that the two little brothers speak like two-year-olds because their parents refuse to teach them to speak and all three of them stutter and randomly pause and repeat themselves in a simple sentence.
#119802
The eldest has also now begun pointing out enemies that this troper can see extremely clearly, sometimes ones he's even moving to aim at. This only serves to distract this troper and, until he learned to stop listening, sometimes got his character injured by shifting his focus to an enemy he THOUGHT he missed.
#119803
This troper's big book o' worksheets for Japanese comes with an audio track necessary to do the listening comprehension parts. Unfortunately, as you're trying to write down the answers to the questions, no less than ''three times'' does the track ''give you the answer.'' Isn't it even counterproductive to give an answer while the student is trying to figure it out for themselves?
#119804
This troper's friend is a backseat Tetris-er. It drives her crazy. "No no no, not there, ahh, come on, you should've put it on the right!"
#119805
It drives this troper up the wall when people start helping her ''too'' much when she's playing solitare. One of her friends is particularly guilty of doing so, and continuing just because it bothers her. She recently glared at him before he had even started and said '''''"NO."'''''
#119806
This troper's friend is an incredible backseat {{RTS}}er. Only once has this troper managed to finish an entire game in front of him without him trying to help so much he's essentially playing for me.
#119807
This troper had this issue with a stage manager while doing lighting tech. It was her first time working with a lighting board, and the SM, who was extremely high-strung, had a tendency to jab her with an elbow and hiss, "What the hell are you doing?" any time she screwed up - which only served to make it harder to correct the mistake. Eventually the troper arranged to seat the otherwise-useless tech "understudy" between herself and the SM, and the quality of the lighting went up markedly.
#119808
I have two examples.
#119809
My father is a backseat driver. His advices are either unnecessary (like using the turn signals when the road only goes one way) or unhelpful (using the sun visor when the sun is too low for it to have effect - especially since it just feels like its obscuring my view of the road).
#119810
A former friend doing this with games not only turned me off {{RPG}}s like BaldursGate for a long time, it also made me into one of these until my mum pointed out what I was doing. I still have this annoying habit, but it's getting better.
#119811
This troper hates it when people try to help him clean the kitchen. It's small enough that more than one person trying to clean it is impossible, and he's repeatedly told people to stop helping him in the task.
#119812
I'm a backseat Dr. Mario...er? I do this for both my parents, but only my mum makes any effort to get me away, and that's probably because she's playing the handheld version. From WarioWare.
#119813
This troper is writing a {{Transformers}}/{{Macross Frontier}}
crossover. While it is somewhat common (at least, expected) for certain readers, one particular reader/reviewer seems to insist on sending me messages as to what he/she thinks the story ought to be like, usually along the lines of "It was like this in the G1 comic, so you should do it like that in your story." This troper, being
Chinese, has not told him "Stop Helping Me" and is instead bitching about it on TVTropes.
#119814
This troper's father has a talent for giving advice or help that I don't want or need, and then gets offended when I reject it (acting as if I had said that I didn't need any advice at all).
#119815
So does my brother.
#119816
This Troper's parents are both like this, especially with relationship advice. ''Aaaaargh''... some of the most stressful years of his life were made even more so by their complete uselessness. I give you a quote: #QUOTE#"If she loves you, she'll come back to you." ...That's '''''PETS''''', not girlfriends! #QUOTE#"The more you chase her, the more she's gonna keep running." Uhm. Ignoring the problem isn't going to make it go away.
#119817
This troper's dog ''loves'' to "help". Such as "helping" take the garbage can in/out, or get the mail, or "helping" me when I'm on the ground bleeding by looking at me strangely and then peeing. Subverted when one time she actually was a big help.
#119818
This troper has had it so bad and so frequently, that it's grown into a BerserkButton style reaction. (even when it truly is helpful) They're convinced that their life would have been much better had people left well enough alone. Not to mention their issues on even ''asking'' for help for fear of this trope.
#119819
This troper's now-deceased cats had a bad habit of this. One was mischevous and curious, the other just liked to make sure things were being done right. This would generally mean anything done to the garden being disrupted by one cat, while the other looked on and inspected the work afterwards.
#119820
This troper kept Ian on the team in Fallout 1 after recruiting Tycho, against the recommendation of about every source on the internet. The train of thought went something like, It's OK if he's a subpar shot, I have the money for ammo anyway. While in the sewers in the Necropolis, some rat(which I'd been dispatching left and right without difficulty) scurries up to me and triggers combat. Ian gets to go first for some reason and brandishes his shotgun. Between him and the rat is ME. He friendly-fires with a critical hit, and kills me. Upon reloading, I took his shotgun, and gunned him down with it.
#119821
This troper's brother is this sometimes. He will point out things like "You're getting shot." to which I would respond "I KNOW!" His family does this too, from time to time, just to annoy me.
#119822
This Troper reacts to any help he recieves (unless actually asked for) like this when at work. He won't say a word, just GLARE the offender to death, make a violent gesture and be on his way.
#119823
In no particular order: Shop employees, driving instructors, my parents when I'm doing my homework, my friends trying to set me up with girls, my parents trying to set me up with girls, my brother when I'm playing games, anyone who thinks they have an idea for a character or plot I should use when writing or drawing, the libraian at my school library, Windows Vista's confirmation messages, my parents and my school subject choices, my friends and my school subject choices, my parents and my friends on how to spend my money, my parents in every other aspect of my life, my teachers and my schoolwork. I think that covers almost everything.
#119824
This Troper has encountered a particularly obnoxious example in a male acquaintance, just shy of being a StalkerWithACrush, attempting to help her with math homework. Even when she doesn't need help (and someone else in the group does.) When she ''does'' need help, this still applies, because the resultant advice is rushed, condescending, and generally unhelpful.
#119825
This troper is very prideful and likes to do stuff BY HERSELF. Unfortunately, some people don't understand this, or just don't trust me with powertools.
#119826
It's common knowledge round my neck of the woods that I rather like
one particular girl, and equally well-known that she's not interested; current strategy is to get on with life and not cock up and lose any friends. It really doesn't help when a... let's call him a "friend" for want of a better word pipes up in the middle of a perfectly ordinary conversation and asks her out for me ''right in front of me''. I was too shocked to lay into him properly.
#119827
There are no wireless networks in range! You are now connected! This wireless connection has little or no connectivity! Quit popping up those baloons and breaking the taskbar's autohide.
#119828
This troper's dad has a heart of gold and will gladly go out of his way to teach people how to do tasks. Unfortunately, this applies even when people don't want his help, and he also sucks at communication. Nearly noun gets replaced with "this", "that", or "that over there", plus he simply cannot stop talking. When this troper was learning to drive, he quickly learned to refuse to drive at all unless his mom was the one teaching him and his dad was not in the car. It worked wonders.
#119829
On another occasion, this troper's family was in Japan, and this troper was the only one who actually spoke Japanese, so he translated orders for the whole family at restaurants. His dad would proceed to repeat the orders in English (even when told not to do it again), confusing the waitress, who would duplicate whatever portions she understood. This troper would end up having to explain "No, my dad only wants one bowl of ramen, not 3. And we don't want 6 bowls of ramen. Sorry." at every meal.
#119830
This troper's mom, on the other hand, is actually much, MUCH better about this the vast majority of the time. Except on the occasion that she's trying to get an already calm person to relax. She's had at least two instances of "Just calm down and relax." "It's fine, I'm already relaxed." "No, really, go sit down and relax." "I said, I'm already relaxed." (repeat for a few iterations) "Look, you'll feel better if you sit down and relax for a while." "I SAID I'M ALREADY FREAKIN' CALM!!"
#119831
This troper (again) has a friend who was diagnosed with Asperger's and is a bit of a savant type. Said friend was one of very few people in high school who was not allowed to take one of the AP classes he wanted - apparently the Special Education department wanted him to ''not'' work too hard at academics in order to socialize more. Which would be reasonable, had he not already demonstrated repeatedly that he developed social skills far better by interacting with AP students in class than with the "run-of-the-mill" crowd due to having much more in common with the former.
#119832
I don't know if it's mom and sisters thinking they can actually help me, or if they just love to be bossy, but for some reason, no matter how medial the task, no matter how many times me or my dad have done it, they feel the need to tell us how to do it. Putting gas in the mower? "Be sure to leave some for the push mower." Sweeping the floor? "You need to use the hose." Picking up sticks? "You should get those ones over there." Plumbing? "Are you sure you want this wrench that you specifically asked for?" Any task that they themselves have never attempted in their lives? "Are you sure you're doing it right?" Christ.
#119833
Oh, and sometimes, if I'm getting ready to do something, like jump into a pool, I'll here "Hey Brian?" Then when I answer with a surly "What?" because they couldn't ask me what they wanted in the 15 feet it took for me to get from A to B, they'll say "Nevermind." AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!
#119834
My parents brought me up to be very independent, so when one of my mother's close friends comes by for a visit, it feels like I'm being suffocated by her for this very reason. If I happen to be cooking something she'll ask if I need help with anything. Multiple times. If I'm trying to get something heavy or out of the way from a closet, she'll ask if I'm okay -- again, multiple times. When my mom's been in the hospital she'll always ask if I need anything (I usually say that the best help she can give me is just to visit Mom at the hospital). If she weren't so darned nice I might snap at her and say, "NO I DON'T WANT ANY HELP! IF I NEEDED HELP I'D ASK BUT I'M NOT SO PLEASE STOP IT!" I want to cook my own darn meals, I want to retrieve my own darn boxes, and unless something requires more than one set of hands (e.g. putting a chest of drawers together), someone pestering me with offers of help actually hinders me getting what I want to get done, done.
#119835
I may be a subversion of this trope. I routinely asked my step-kids if they needed help (with schoolwork and other things I'm knowledgeable in), and actually took them at their word when they said "no", only clarifying, "Okay. If you do, let me know." My wife does not understand this type of interaction, especially when it came to their learner's permits for driving where I deliberately limited my input to pointing out errors that put us, or the car, in harm's way.
#119836
This troper is fiercely independent and hates asking for help. This troper has an overbearing mother who loves to get in the way of anything I do myself or with my dad, be it homework, maths, fixing our three ailing computers, science or debating; she'll constantly pop in, offer useless "advice", fail logic forever, preach from her soapbox and generally get in the way and irritate people (she also keeps messing up sequences and routines - my dad and I both hate sequence breaking, especially if said sequence is vital). I am easily irritated and have a terrible temper. This trope comes up a lot, usually accompanied by fire and brimstone.
#119837
'''
THIS. TROPER'S. MOTHER.''' Mostly because we constantly disagree on how to do things, and it ALWAYS results in me screaming, "STOP HELPING MEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!"
#119838
This Troper tends to be really independent when she can. If I'm working on gathering my stuff to leave class after the bell rings, one of my best friends (who is in EVERY CLASS with me) often comes and starts helping me pick up my stuff, holding a bag, etc. It's really thoughtful of her, but I'm so used to doing things by myself that my first reaction in my brain is "Nononoputitdown." I usually just let her do it and say thank you, though, because it's nice of her to help like that. Also, if anyone tries to be a backseat gamer/similar like with some kind've puzzle, I tend to raeg hard.
#119839
This troper has had no less than three trojans that turned out to be this trope incarnate. Basically, they all posed as antiviruses and gave me warning after warning of infections that weren't even there(as my actual antivirus can attest to). Eventually, they wouldn't let me open anything(claiming the programs were infected), and the only site they would let me on was the one where I would have to shell out $50 that I don't have for the full version of the "antivirus".(though the last one-[=SecurityShield=]-did something different; it blocked the web browsers from even opening.)They were all removed through different means(first-went away on its own IIRC, second-upgrade of our current antivirus, third-booted into safe mode and downloaded a program made for removing those), but their evil ExpositionFairy tendencies were exactly the same and made this troper scream this trope word for word more than once.
#119840
No, I do not want to eat lunch with you. No, I do not want to do the group project with you. No, I do not want to join your club. I want to draw/study/play video games/listen to music ''in peace''! Thank goodness this troper isn't in school anymore.
#119841
Mild example: People who don't know how to drive giving me directions when I'm giving them rides. They tend not to think about the differences between walking/biking and driving. Telling me to turn without enough time to react or not specifying ''which'' street they're talking about. Pointing in a direction instead of saying right/left, which is nigh useless when I can only see their hand out of my peripheral vision and I either need them to clarify(which sucks if it's coming up soon) or look over and take my eyes off the road and hope that I can tell what they're intending to point at. Not a BerserkButton really but can be frustrating if I'm already a little nervous in an area I'm unfamiliar with.
#119842
Anyone who owns(?) a cat has probably said these words to him/her at some point.
#119843
If it's a mundane task, this troper will almost always declare this when asked "Do you need help?" and/or when somebody is giving me directions. This is both a good and a bad thing. Also, I undoubtedly get it from my mother.
#119844
Ever tried to hold an public open discussion on a remotely controversial topic? The worst thing that can happen to such an event is for a person who knows little about the topic, is not affiliated with you (the group holding the event), and is strongly and vocally opinionated to voice their support and congratulate you for doing or saying something that you absolutely aren't. Trying to protest just looks like backpedaling.
#119845
This troper has wanted to scream it because he asks people for help on stuff, but they always just do crap like go off on unrelated tangents and don't tell me freaking ''HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM''. I just want help on ''this'' part. Sometimes, I just want to yell "StopHelpingMe" because most people are "figure it out yourself" when it's obvious that some of us kind of need a little pushing in the right direction first.
#119846
Sadly, this is a fact of life for many people with all kinds of disabilities, especially if the disability is obvious to any person who sees the person who has it. It is also part of why it is often irritating to be a special ed kid in school.