RootingForTheEmpire
#109508
I as a child eventually got so sick of good guys in cartoons that I started hoping the bad guys would kill the good guys just so it would end. I of course knew this was never going to happen and that just made it all the more frustrating. Luckily for me better cartoons started being made a few years later and this troper is now 14 and quite the cartoon network fan and is also a fan of 90's nicktoons.
#109509
You're not the only one. As a kid I would root for Skeletor or just about any cartoon villain in the 80's since the villains during that time were always made to look weak to the point that I felt sorry for them while the heroes do act like a bunch of jerks, sometimes even more than the villain. The only exception I made is Optimus Prime although I did applaud Megatron for being one of the few 80's cartoon heroes that managed to kill their archenemy but also applaud Optimus for not going down like a punk. %% %% Remember, you are not to use "This Troper". Use the first person, or better yet, your handle %%
#109510
In the IslandInTheSeaOfTime series I root for William Walker. I have no explanation, I just like him more.
#109511
Does that make me sick minded?
#109512
I didn't care too much for Avatar, but I was definitely on the humans' side... I hoped against hope that Quaritch would kill Jake or Neytiri just to shake up the predictable ending.
#109513
It helped that the human side was more likeable than the holier than thou Nav'i.
#109514
HELLO YES!!! THIS TROPER AGREES WITH THAT!!!! Want some more empires to root for?
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#109515
Yes, how dare the Navi try to oppose a group of planet looters who wrecked their own planet and now somehow seems to think that means they should be allowed to destroy other peoples lives now. I agree that the ending kinda sucked, and the portrayal of both sides was pretty thin, but I'm sick of all the people who insist that the Navi were wrong for not rolling over. Its THEIR damn planet!!
#109516
I absolutely adored ''Avatar'' just for the sheer fun of it, and while I would never condone the RDA's methods (
their motivation of trying to repair Earth with what they found on Pandora was understandable, but seriously, couldn't they have tried harder to make sure that nobody got hurt?), I got a bit fed up with the holier-than-thou attitude of the Na'vi, and most definitely did not appreciate the idea that being born human somehow makes me (not me ''personally'', but it still hurts) inherently inferior to them.
#109517
I sometimes count, depending on the series. ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' definitely, simply because the writing is so
Arceusdamned awful(I wanted Tyler's van to crash into Bella, for starters). GeneratorRex is a bit complicated, because while I like
Rex,
Agent Six, and
Dr. Holiday; I also love watching
The Pack in action, and celebrated when
Van Kleiss and Breach turned out to be NotQuiteDead in the episode "What Lies Beneath". Oh, and I HATE
White Knight, so I often end up rooting for the villains. {{Pokemon}} is a bit complicated, I really don't like the anime for
many various reasons, and for a little while I only watched it because I was rooting for Pokemon Hunter J. On the other hand, I'm a huge fan of the games, and always root for the good guys (or at least
the player character). Still, I can't help but sympathize with
N from PokemonBlackAndWhite.
#109518
Hey, N's TheWoobie and an AntiVillain. Rooting for him is OK. Now if we were talking about
Ghetsis, on the other hand....
#109519
This troper finds himself more and more rooting for every anime and video game villain that doesn't degrade to being petty evil or rapist. I've simply taken a complete dislike of heroes, their PowerOfFriendship and
Love, their BlackAndWhiteMorality and IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim philosophies. Personally, I find heroes' KirkSummations VERY childish and immature, while the villains' Hannibal Lectures are, at least, more rational than goody-two-shoes talks. And ShutUpHannibal situations are usually only proof that the hero can't beat the villain's logic and prefer to stick to what they know, like
Aizen Hannibal-lecturing Yamamoto and the old idiot just saying he won't go into arguments with Aizen, someone who is CLEARLY more intelligent than him. And don't get me started on Naruto's poor excuse of a BattleAtTheCenterOfTheMind. Different from most people, however, I don't go DracoInLeatherPants; I know the guys I root for are usually
monsters and
crazy. I just don't care!
#109520
Averred with me I love the Daleks from Doctor who but I always root for the Doctor.
#109522
Also, I want
Kyubey to win.
I'm not kidding. He's the cutest thing ever, and he's just trying to save the universe from destruction! How can I be the only one who loves the little guy? The weird part is that I can't see
the Anti-Spiral as anything other than a CompleteMonster, despite the fact they have basically ''the same philosophy''. It's probably because Kyubey didn't rape anyone and isn't a racist, which is more than can be said for the Anti-Spiral...but then ''why does everyone hate Kyubey when there are people who like the Anti-Spiral?''
#109523
Also, when learning about TheVietnamWar in school, I noticed that, after hearing detailed descriptions of their tactics, I was rooting for the Viet Cong. DirtyCommunists or not,
those guys were ''
geniuses.''
#109524
This troper's sister has said that at a certain point of ''Series/{{Heroes}}'', she was rooting for Sylar because everyone else was becoming too stupid.
#109525
Same here...until they made him too stupid. Then I ended up rooting for
Edgar.
#109526
This troper rooted for Dr. Facilier during ''ThePrincessAndTheFrog''. He was slick, charming, and had KeithDavid's
voice, for starters. Also, I couldn't stop wondering what kind of backstory he had--how he got his powers, why he became the way he was, etc. I also believe that people who claim they haven't rooted for a Disney villain at least once are
lying.
#109527
This troper got so damn sick of AmericaSavesTheDay and Type 1 {{Eagleland}} with BlackAndWhiteMorality that he decided to write
a story with the antagonists being America. Not a corrupt America, not a communist America, not a fascist America, not even a DividedStatesOfAmerica–just a normal, modern-ish America. Of course, the protagonists ended up being NotSoDifferent and the whole thing sort of spiraled out of control and spawned a 200-odd-pages-long bunch of short stories...
#109528
Just make us well-developed villians. I do not want to read a book where we're evil "just for the lulz." I want to read it and empathize with your not-American protagonist and understand why he must defeat us.
#109529
I hoped that the velciraptors in Jurrassic Park would eat those kids. Don't lie, I know most of the people were rooting for the dinosaurs.
#109530
Not exactly ''for'' the Empire, but this troper '''cannot''' be the only one rooting against the SmugSnake detectives on
Law And Order: SVU. In no way do I condone sex crimes or anything like that- I just hate the way they handle the cases and their attitude.
#109531
This Troper and his friends would kind of like to see
the Anti-SOS Brigade come out on top, since most of its members
aren't that evil and may even have a good goal. The SOS Brigade can come off as sentimental idiots who are endangering the universe on purpose.
#109532
I don't know if I'm alone on this or not, but I got this way with AvatarTheLastAirbender. By season three, I kind of started to think that they were putting off building up the fight with Ozai because Azula was just that much more interesting. Emotional investment in the duel between
Zuko and Azula was that much higher compared to the concurrent fight with Ozai, which turned out exceedingly boring and lame by comparison. Overall, I watched the whole show mostly for Zuko and Azula. Appropriately, Zuko and Iroh were the best part of the 2010 movie as well.
#109534
You're not alone. Often times, when reading about Stalin, I find myself rooting for the guy (with his war with Hitler, etc) even though I damn well know how much of a CompleteMonster Stalin was.
#109535
This troper ended up sympathizing with the Nightmares in LinksAwakening. This was one
DreamApocalypse I didn't want to occur, No Deaths Clear or otherwise.
#109536
This troper is firmly on Rameses' side for ''ThePrinceOfEgypt''.
#109537
So which part did you agree with? The slavery, the murder of the Israelites children..?
#109538
Well, I had some sympathy for Ramses when his boy died. Though the dude kinda brought it on himself when he pretty much told Moses up front that, "I don't care what happens to my country, your people aren't leaving!"
#109539
I rooted for
Phyrexia during the ''Mirrodin Besieged'' prerelease. When the news came out that "Action" had officially been announced as ''New Phyrexia'', I felt a little vindicated inside. Maybe I just want to see what sort of fucked-up monstrosities Phyrexia is going to unleash on TheMultiverse. Maybe I just want one more BigBad for MagicTheGathering, so I can see all of the {{Big Bad}}s (
Nicol Bolas,
the Eldrazi, New Phyrexia)
fight each other. Whatever it is, I have only this to say: '''''All will be one!'''''
#109541
When this troper's English Literature class read NorthangerAbbey it turned out that a good number of students ended up taking the side of John and Isabella Thorpe, possibly because it was made so clear so often that the reader was supposed to dislike them with no saving graces.
#109542
This Troper tends to root for bad guys who assimilate, such as the Bog. Yes you lose your individuality, but you become a fearless and loyal worker augmented with cybernetics that works to unite the universe.
#109543
When this troper watched OnceUponATimeLife, he rooted for the viruses and bacteria, because only if they successfully caused an infection, he would be able to see how it progressed and what it caused. Also, in the episode about leukemia he rooted for the mutated lymphocytes for the way they were portrayed (rogue, tough punk-like characters who ran around doing whatever they wanted and saying that they had no rules).
#109544
Was I the only one who wanted
Grimmjow and Ulquiorra to keep winning? I started to feel the same way they did, getting tired of Ichigo getting up again and again...HeroicResolve isn't everything! Sure, the worlds would've been doomed but Ichigo's Messiah status got on my nerves!
#109545
In X-Men, I hoped Magneto would actually kill the heroes and continue his plan to genocide the human race.
#109546
I was tired of reading about Oliver Twist being the poor protagonist that everyone hates that I once wrote a fanfic where Oliver is a cold-blooded assassin and Queen Victoria has hired an agent to find and take down that SOB.
#109547
In the ''Sharpe'' series, I root for the French and hope Sharpe gets killed although I know it will never happen.
#109548
This troper rooted for Galbatorix in TheInheritanceCycle before giving up,wished for Joker to beat Batman [that's averted by Dark Knight where Batman isn't worth beating and the 1960's series because Adam West is just that good], wanted James to kill Bella at the end of ''Twilight'', and really wished Peter got what was coming in the James Woods arc of FamilyGuy.
#109549
I'm so sick of hearing about the London Blitz from the perspective of Great Britain that I want to write a story through a perspective of a pro-Nazi German fighter who bombs London during the blitz. When his plane is shot down, he retreats to a nearby castle ruin where he kidnaps a British woman and attempts to brainwash her into believing in German superiority. Of course, they eventually find themselves on the run from British authorities.
#109551
This troper's father is an avid fan of WhaleWars... and roots for the Japanese whalers to plow through or ''harpoon'' the "damn Greenpeace hippies". Can't condone that, though I certainly sympathize and would love to watch someone teach those self-righteous bastards a lesson.
#109552
This troper would like you to watch this video about Sea Shepherd vs. The Russians (1981) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs2dN0Sbk2Q
#109553
This Troper '''seriously''' can't be the only one who roots for
Robbie Rotten.