NayTheist
#88935
I wonder if I count as this. On good days, I am basically agnostic theist (believe that God exists I don't think that any particular religion can be ever be proven to be the right one. And on bad days feels that God is evil (or incompetent) and doesn't deserve worship. Mostly I just hate having to debate. I wish that the only time people talked about their religion (or lack there of,) is when they where directly asked. Is that so wrong?
#88936
I hold this view. Reason being that I was born out of wedlock and, because both biological parents confirmed independently that they'd ''never'' intended to marry, consider it the best thing they did for me. Thus, because our family being religious might have forced them to marry against their will, my feeling is that I'm a NayTheist because I have a legitimate case that my life was better with God kept out of it.
#88937
I'm a skeptic-agnostic and I dislike most organized religion. I don't necessarily have a problem with the idea of God, I just don't believe God has anthropomorphic qualities/a personality, but I don't have a problem with there being St. Thomas Aquinas' "first mover" (though I don't find that to be a logical necessity, either.) I only discuss religion with my fellow philosophy nerds not because I'm an intellectual snob, but because we all tend to be really open minded and like logical, chill debate. That, and you don't have to be a Christian to find
Kierkegaard and/or Kant kinda cool, and even a really religious person can admit the ethical implications of certain atheistic and/or materialist worldviews are pretty interesting shit.
#88938
I am something of a bizarre fusion of this trope and atheist-agnostic: I consider it very unlikely that God could exist, and if he does exist, he doesn't ''deserve'' worship.
#88939
I could toss my hat into that ring. If the Christian god behaved the way he did in the Old Testament, I sure as hell wouldn't worship that guy. Although I must say, I'm fairly certain that the gods of all religions were invented by ancient man, and hence they were given human-like properties.
#88940
I am a strong atheist (despite believing the only logical position is agnosticism) but definitely agree - if God or gods were to reveal their existence tomorrow, I would probably shrug, make a snarky, ill-advised comment, and go back to what I was doing.
#88941
I would probably do the same in that situation, even if I considers myself a strong agnostic (That is: I don't know since there's no way to prove it). When I feel like blaspheming and know it consciously, I'll use the name of one of the god/desses from media I like. (Turning the head of her best friend whenever I curse at Necron).
#88942
I usually just swear by the Great Whoever. Since I believe all gods exist (and are all figments of the collective human subconconcious) I don't want to offend the wrong one by thanking someone in general so I usually just say "Thank Whoever".
#88943
Add one more to this list, although my position is more like: a God/gods is/are unlikely to exist in the way commonly perceived, and if they do and I have to 'confront' them when I die, that's exactly what I will do. Start a big argument; why should they be masters over us. I'd probably have quite a lot of support, and anyway, what more could they do to me. Arrogant?
Oh, hell yes.
#88944
Exactly. I'm a definite atheist, but if any of the gods humanity has conceived of turn out to exist, upon my death they will be receiving an earful from me about how their morals are more than a little bit skewed and they aren't worthy of worship.
#88945
I am pretty sure god isn't real, but if there is one it's either our creation, or it has no need for worship. Also that if it ever spoke to man, those words have been greatly distorted by us, and if they aren't see the above about no deserving worship. My motto is "even if there is a god, and I had his holy book before me I would decide for
myself what is right and wrong."
#88946
Dude, I don't mean to totally nerd out on you (but this is a pretty nerdy website, so there) but you sound exactly like 20th century philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre. If philosophy is your thing, you should totally check out some of the arguments for subjectivism(the last part of "existentialism is a humanism" springs to mind) and existentialism. If it's not your thing, that's cool too...but I know there are fellow philosophers on here, and I, for on, and am always on the lookout for a new thing to read :)
#88947
I am an unusual form of maltheist. I think that Christian God does exist (but is a damn liar about being the only one and the creator of everything), Satan also exists (but isn't an enemy of the former, they are just playing a cosmic Good Cop Bad Cop on humankind), the old pagan gods also exist, and pretty much everybody else does... and none of these deserves worship. They're all sons of a bitch who get too uppity for their own good if you do worship them. However, the old pre-Christian gods are currently the least sons of a bitch and so paganism is quite acceptable for me (though I'm still a Nay Theist myself).
#88948
*Raises hand.*
I agree, though I'm not above cutting deals with
worship-starved pagan gods, and lacking a better title, refer to myself as pagan.
#88949
I also agree, though I'm quite happy with the goddess I found, making me a firm Monolatrist. I come across as a Naytheist for lack of willingess to talk about her.
#88950
I has been wondering what the hell to call myself. I have decided SOMEONE had to cause the Big Bang, SOMEONE had to throw life somewhere, etc. etc. Plus, every single god ever exists in my book.
#88951
"Deist" seems about right.
#88952
I am much the same. Gods exist, all of them (except those who've been KilledOffForReal, who obviously ''used'' to exist). However, I don't trust or worship any of them, partially because a lot of them are probably lying to get more worshippers (the assertion of the Abrahamic God that He is the only deity being particularly annoying: saying you're the best god is one thing, but claiming to be the ''only'' one is just plain arrogant and rude, even for a deity), and the others are mostly massive dicks. That said, I definitely respect them, if for no other reason than the fact a lightning bolt often offends, and thinks of myself as theologically non-partisan.
#88953
I don't know what to call myself. I acknowledge God's existence, and revere him to a degree, but regularly calls him an 'asshole' and talk to him like I would any other person.
#88954
I feel more or less the same way, only I see him being less of an asshole, and more having a bad sense of humor.
#88955
I, a Christian, wonder why it's always ''my'' God. Am I allowed to hate Zeus? Right fucker, that one.
#88956
Put it this way: if we consider Zeus as roughly equivalent to the Abrahamic god, the Satan equivalent would be be Prometheus. You know, the creator and benefactor of humanity, who was cursed to a FateWorseThanDeath for preventing Zeus from wiping us out for petty reasons? (Actually the early church probably had this in mind, one of Satan's names is Light-Bringer.)
#88957
...Not to mention his sin was pride, and ditto Prometheus, though in a different way.
#88959
I sort of think God is still trying to figure out the whole "deity" thing, is mostly benevolent and is currently trying a hands-off approach.
#88960
I pretend to be a vehemently anti-religious agnostic to monotheistic folks... for their benefit, of course. If they can't figure out their faith, then what worth is it to any deity? My work has weakened the faith of some, and strengthened that of others. Faith isn't a gift you can give, but I believe that is no reason not to try doing so, after a fashion. -MAI 742
#88961
Me, for sure. God probably doesn't exist, but if I met him, my first act would be to tell him to keep his buttinski ass out of our business. A demonstrable non-human/non-human-derived entity (I use this term in case we have {{cyborg}}s or {{Ridiculously Human Robot}}s someday) is an alien.
Look to fiction to determine the
correct way to
deal with aggressive or interfering aliens.
#88962
I have decided that an omnipotent being would most likely exist in a quantum state of both existing and not existing at the same time. If it is observed by some means or other, it would immediately fall into either category. In addition, the being would probably have such a wide range of StarfishAlien emotions and OrangeAndBlueMorality that speculating on its attitude towards humankind would lead to a severe case of MindScrew.
#88963
I am certain some kind of higher power exists, due to personal experiences, but am unable to worship due to uncertainty about which religion is the true religion. I have only come as far as ruling out the Inca/Mayan gods, for they would have died already due to lack of (human) sacrifices. Will the real divine entity please stand up?
#88964
I believe in several gods, I just treat them as your ordinary backyard {{Eldritch Abomination}}s whom we can talk to, love and hate just like any other human being. I accepted the existence of gods, but however, I specifically hated those who are total
jerk arses who demand worship, and thus I embarked on a journey on how to bring those gods down so humanity might be freed from their tyranny. I actually had an arch-rival: The Christian God (no, not Jesus, since I liked Jesus and believed he is
everybody, but that MarySue who thinks he is the one and only God), and
don't ask why.
#88965
I believe in a higher power, but I don't know what to think on it. On one hand, the Bible says God is good and omnipotent etc, but also confesses all the horrible things he did. On the other, why would an omnipotent deity allow records of his cruelty to exist and prop it up to people? Not to mention everything in between then and now...
#88966
So it's more a case of wondering if god is
Atoner as opposed to outright distrust/ hate.
#88967
I believe God does indeed exist, it's the benevolent father figure part that I find questionable.
#88968
I am a mix between this and Agnostic-Atheist, believing that god doesn't exist but if he's wrong and any form of god does exist, only a select few deserve worship whilst most others shouldn't.
#88969
One person on Livejournal posted on their LJ about how a scene in a comic justified their own maltheism
already believe the universe is ruled by a god of pure evil." says he.. This wouldn't be so bad, except the scene was LexLuthor arguing with Death from {{Sandman}}. The interview the images were attached to has the creators saying that the reason Lex is a FlatEarthAtheist is that his ego can't quite conceive of anything better than he is. In that very same sequence, he loses interest in getting back to life once he learns ''other people have done it''. The fact that the individual in question was using this scene to prop up his own maltheism is hilarious to me, if appropriate, since he's kind of an egotistical jerk himself.
#88970
My theological opinions largely line up with this idea as detailed by the ReaperMan quote. Basically, if gods do or do not exist, it generally does not affect me on a day-to-day basis. As such, I don't worry about it and continue with life.
#88971
I believe in pretty much all of the gods, and that all religions (that aren't blatant money-making schemes) have some kernel of truth to them. That said, I don't particularly worship any of them, just believe that they all exist, kind of goofing around and generally doing what is mythologically ascribed to them.
#88972
I am a variation. I am 100% atheist and dislikes religion, but find myths and stories from all religions entertaining.
#88973
Yes. It would also be really cool if the gods where walking the earth (and if one'd knock on my door and asked politely, I'd gladly invite them for tea), but so would be unicorns and jetpacks.
#88975
I cannot deny the possibility of a Creator, but my stance on that Creator is a lot similar to that of HPLovecraft: He's an uncaring
abomination.
#88976
Sort-of like the above troper, while technically polytheist, I thoroughly believe in the existence of God in terms of Christianity, Judaism and Islam (i.e. all Abrahamic monotheism) as well, except I believe said entity to be a sadomasochistic force that personally equates suffering with pleasure for itself and thus hoists suffering as good as a philosophy merely so it can feed, that it's speaking of its omnipotence is just talk, and that it is only a vile usurper of the true creator's role, an inferior copy of the real thing like
Clu from
Tron: Legacy - and that the real Creator does not have a name of her own. But if we stretch that analogy a little more, seeing the True Creator is distant, I wonder whether worshipping some kind of trickster deity (similar role to Zuse in that movie) might hold water?
#88977
While I am an atheist, I used to be a Nay Theist, holding that it's illogical to act as many religious people do and assume that proof that God exists is proof that he ought to be worshipped. Imagine this in other contexts! "Obama is real, therefore we ought to support him." Doesn't make sense, so why would it make sense with God?
#88978
I personally that God is too inept to really worship, and that one must find their own "inner God" in a sort of Gnostic way.